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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
      <br>
      So, the conclusion of my Loomio test is that it does not let the
      user choose which Google account it uses during account creation,
      it uses the connected account and, despite the user cancels the
      Login operation, Loomio continues to try to use the unwanted
      account. I tried disconnecting the account and removing the
      cookies in vain.<br>
      I was asked to open a Loomio ticket and, although I'm not here to
      debug Loomio, I'm helpful and I did.<br>
      But no one popped up, ad so, Loomio must be seen as unsupported
      software.<br>
      I could not make actual tests.<br>
      <br>
      On 2015-03-23 19:07, Kotya Karapetyan wrote :<br>
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cite="mid:CAK2dJ-wzv0nD1xNyQgCjAhXmtY2-PWFyE0yQ3Ravnv4XLgCEvw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Now I am missing the "like" link :)
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        <div>We'll definitely need to find a smart and soft way to
          attract people to a different platform. <br>
          However, though I agree that email is not the best tool, we
          need a very good alternative rather than a marginally better
          option first.</div>
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    </blockquote>
    You should say what you mean when you speak of "e-mail" (not being
    the best tool).<br>
    If you mean that a plain mail server or list server is insufficient,
    one can agree.<br>
    But if you say that the user shouldn't use e-mail, that is wrong.<br>
    Users complain about the difficulties of composing wiki text or
    similar because it's not wysiwyg and because a Web interface is not
    adequate. E-mail programs are good, basic HTML editors and the best
    idea is to use that same HTML for both forum articles and wiki
    pages. The said articles are easily converted to wiki pages,
    something that should be more often in certain countries.<br>
    <br>
    Personally, I archive the messages I receive in an MAP server that I
    can access with my e-mail program.<br>
    If you add list management functions to that, the more the better,
    you make an excellent Loomio.<br>
    The list servers we use have 2 big shortcomings: 1) limiting message
    size, 2) considering messages as text with HTML attachment.<br>
    They should use a readonly IMAP server.<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"> <a
        href="https://www.loomio.org/d/1E3YAaz0/test-images">Loomio test
        page </a><br>
      To answer the Ralph’s question in the mailing list, this thread is
      an attempt to embed an image:</blockquote>
    You seem to consider including an image as an achievement.<br>
    There is more than that to support: links, lists, tables, titles
    etc...<br>
    <br>
    I have copied and pasted to this message the page of the test test
    you made on Loomio.<br>
    Below that, I made a fancier image with the text wrapping to the
    left, just for show.<br>
    Belox that, I copied from the main map the tags of Elisabeth Tower,
    the one supporting Big Ben.<br>
    It contains titles, links, a table and a list.<br>
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          <td>André.</td>
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                            <p>To answer the Ralph’s question in the
                              mailing list, this thread is an attempt to
                              embed an image:</p>
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                                      <p>Image in a comment. </p>
                                      <p>Quisque at orci accumsan,
                                        aliquam massa eget, mattis nisi.
                                        Fusce commodo venenatis
                                        molestie. Proin sagittis enim
                                        sed orci semper efficitur.
                                        Suspendisse porttitor ornare
                                        justo, quis ornare elit gravida
                                        nec. Etiam luctus, purus eu
                                        luctus pharetra, ipsum odio
                                        rhoncus tellus, in posuere metus
                                        est eu sem. Curabitur sed est a
                                        purus rutrum vehicula. Donec sit
                                        amet porta risus.</p>
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src="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/6/68/Water_tap_in_Frejus.jpg"
                                          alt="" width="1224"
                                          height="1632"></p>
                                      <p>Morbi in tristique lacus. Sed
                                        ultricies mauris ut tristique
                                        fringilla. Suspendisse sed
                                        dictum elit. Sed eget facilisis
                                        ipsum. In hac habitasse platea
                                        dictumst. Pellentesque habitant
                                        morbi tristique senectus et
                                        netus et malesuada fames ac
                                        turpis egestas. </p>
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                  <td valign="middle" width="50%">Quisque at orci
                    accumsan, aliquam massa eget, mattis nisi. Fusce
                    commodo venenatis molestie. Proin sagittis enim sed
                    orci semper efficitur. Suspendisse porttitor ornare
                    justo, quis ornare elit gravida nec. Etiam luctus,
                    purus eu luctus pharetra, ipsum odio rhoncus tellus,
                    in posuere metus est eu sem. Curabitur sed est a
                    purus rutrum vehicula. Donec sit amet porta risus.<br>
                    <br>
                    Morbi in tristique lacus. Sed ultricies mauris ut
                    tristique fringilla. Suspendisse sed dictum elit.
                    Sed eget facilisis ipsum. In hac habitasse platea
                    dictumst. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique
                    senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis
                    egestas. <br>
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                    <p><img style="display: block; width: 100%; height:
                        auto;" moz-do-not-send="true"
src="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/6/68/Water_tap_in_Frejus.jpg"
                        alt="" width="612" align="right" height="816"></p>
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            <h2>Way: <bdi>Elizabeth Tower</bdi> (<bdi>123557148</bdi>)
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              <h4> Updating and minor corrections </h4>
              <div class="details"> Edited <abbr title="Sun, 15 Mar
                  2015 04:50:11 +0000">11 days ago</abbr> by <a
                  href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MQF69">MQF69</a>
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              <div class="details"> Version #20 · Changeset #<a
                  href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29485340">29485340</a>
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              <h4>Tags</h4>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k"><a title="The wiki
                        description page for the building tag"
                        href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building?uselang=en">building</a></th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">yes</td>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k">building:roof:shape</th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">pyramidal</td>
                  </tr>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k"><a title="The wiki
                        description page for the height tag"
                        href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:height?uselang=en">height</a></th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">70</td>
                  </tr>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k"><a title="The wiki
                        description page for the name tag"
                        href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name?uselang=en">name</a></th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">Clock Tower</td>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k">name:ar</th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">بيج بن</td>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k"><a title="The wiki
                        description page for the name:en tag"
                        href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name:en?uselang=en">name:en</a></th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">Elizabeth Tower</td>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k">name:he</th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">ביג בן</td>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k">name:lt</th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v">Vestminsterio laikrodžio
                      bokštas</td>
                  </tr>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k"><a title="The wiki
                        description page for the tourism tag"
                        href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism?uselang=en">tourism</a></th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v"><a title="The wiki
                        description page for the tourism=attraction tag"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism=attraction?uselang=en">attraction</a></td>
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                    <th class="browse-tag-k"><a title="The wiki
                        description page for the wikipedia tag"
                        href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia?uselang=en">wikipedia</a></th>
                    <td class="browse-tag-v"><a title="The en:Big Ben
                        article on Wikipedia"
                        href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Big%20Ben?uselang=en">en:Big

                        Ben</a></td>
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              <h4>Nodes</h4>
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                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/26700840">26700840</a>
                </li>
                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1377413864">1377413864</a>
                </li>
                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1377413913">1377413913</a>
                  (part of way <a class="way" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/168590145">168590145</a>)
                </li>
                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1232221090">1232221090</a>
                  (part of ways <a class="way" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/168590145">168590145</a>
                  and <a class="way" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/168590145">168590145</a>)
                </li>
                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1232221081">1232221081</a>
                </li>
                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/362918274">362918274</a>
                </li>
                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1681924242">1681924242</a>
                  (part of way <a class="way highway footway"
                    title="highway=footway"
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/155834922">155834922</a>)
                </li>
                <li> <a class="node" title=""
                    href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/26700840">26700840</a>
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