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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/01/2016 8:35 AM, Colin Smale
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      <p>How would you translate or apply these tags in e.g. the UK or
        the Netherlands (my home countries)? What is a "state
        government"? What is a "local government seat"? These things
        will mean different things to different people.</p>
      <p>Although this is phrased a bit rhetorically, I do think we
        should be aware that a description in one person's vernacular is
        not necessarily clear to a diverse audience. A "town hall" is
        (to me) a bit archaic, but I think many people would be able to
        answer the question "where is the town hall?" for their home
        municipality. It will often be a historic building, and may or
        may not be where the council chamber is, or where the "mayor" or
        the head of the council has their office. So how do you decide
        if a building is a/the Town Hall?</p>
      <p>And what would be an example of "<span>an office of a local
          administrative authority, not related to the state
          government"? I cannot imagine, maybe someone can jog my brain
          in the right direction.</span></p>
      <p><span>As for building=public, well, words fail me. What is a
          "public building"? A building to which the public has access?
          That's not an attribute of the building, that needs an
          access=* tag.</span></p>
      <p><span>This kind of unclear semantics is exactly why I will vote
          to discourage amenity=public_building. Let's not throw the
          baby out with the bath water and suggest a replacement which
          is just as bad, if not worse.</span></p>
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    These tags and the descriptions are already on the wiki. <br>
    If they should be improved .. or discouraged .. then do that as
    separate issues. <br>
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    Town Halls... <br>
    England ... <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.thsh.co.uk/town-hall/">https://www.thsh.co.uk/town-hall/</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.leeds.gov.uk/townhall/Pages/default.aspx">http://www.leeds.gov.uk/townhall/Pages/default.aspx</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cheltenhamtownhall.org.uk/">http://www.cheltenhamtownhall.org.uk/</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.loughboroughtownhall.co.uk/">https://www.loughboroughtownhall.co.uk/</a><br>
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    and a few more... <br>
    ---<br>
    "<span>an office of a local administrative authority, not related to
      the state government" <br>
      <br>
      Errr some names ? local council, shire council, county council...
      <br>
      <br>
      ---<br>
      building=public .. already done this. I do agree that it is not
      'good'. But someone put it up. And it can be discussed .. on the
      wiki or as a separate thread. <br>
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      <p>//colin</p>
      <p>On 2016-01-15 22:13, Warin wrote:</p>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/01/2016 7:03 AM, Matthijs
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          <pre>Hi all,

Based on the discussion arising from my previous message, it seems
that there is support to discourage the tag amenity=public_building.

I have therefore created a proposal page to explicitly mark this tag
as discouraged in the wiki:

<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Discourage_amenity%3Dpublic_building">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Discourage_amenity%3Dpublic_building</a>

Please let me know what you think.</pre>
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        There should be a mention of tagging a feature as well as a
        function.<br>
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        So I would separate up the tags thus;<br>
        <br>
        ..."Some examples: <br>
        <br>
        To tag a function;<br>
        <ul>
          <li><tt dir="ltr" style="background: #DDE; white-space:
              nowrap;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="Key:office"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office">office</a>=<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" title="Tag:office=government"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dgovernment">public</a></tt>
            for an office of an agency or department of the
            national/state government.</li>
          <li><tt dir="ltr" style="background: #DDE; white-space:
              nowrap;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="Key:office"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office">office</a>=<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" title="Tag:office=administrative"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dadministrative">administrative</a></tt>
            for an office of a local administrative authority, not
            related to the state government.</li>
          <li><tt dir="ltr" style="background: #DDE; white-space:
              nowrap;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="Key:amenity"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity">amenity</a>=<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" title="Tag:amenity=townhall"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtownhall">townhall</a></tt>
            for a local government seat.</li>
        </ul>
        <p>To tag a feature;</p>
        <p> </p>
        <ul>
          <li><tt dir="ltr" style="background: #DDE; white-space:
              nowrap;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="Key:office"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office">building</a>=<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" title="Tag:office=government"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dgovernment">public</a></tt> 
            for a public building.</li>
          <li><tt dir="ltr" style="background: #DDE; white-space:
              nowrap;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="Key:office"
                href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office">building</a>=<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" title="Tag:office=administrative"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dadministrative">school</a></tt>
            for a school.</li>
        </ul>
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          <pre>-- Matthijs

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