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<p>The green spaces ( and concrete or whatever) around a road are
part of the infrastructure of a road. If the road wasn't there the
land would have another use, such as farmland. So I believe this
should be landuse=highway. It is being used as part of the
surroundings of the highway. It doesn't doesn't stop someone micro
mapping to add more detail.<br>
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cheers
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/01/2017 21:40, Warin wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">And I disagree with all of them being
leisure=garden. <br>
The green patches between a road and a footway are not 'leisure'
things .. they are 'safety' things .. particularly beside busy
roads. <br>
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If these same areas were covered with concrete .. would you
still think of them as 'leisure'? In other words .. are you
associating the 'cover' with the 'use' of these areas? <br>
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Approach =the problem from 2 different ways of thinking -<br>
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What is the 'cover' ... landcover ?<br>
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and then <br>
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What is the 'use' ... landuse?<br>
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Once you divide those 2 things up it makes it clearer what is
there. <br>
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On 11-Jan-17 10:22 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote:<br>
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<div>@<font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"><span
name="Marc Zoutendijk" class="gmail-gD">Marc
Zoutendijk<br>
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<font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"><span
name="Marc Zoutendijk" class="gmail-gD">thanks for the
photos.<br>
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<font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"><span
name="Marc Zoutendijk" class="gmail-gD">I agree with all
of them as leisure=garden, except for the bottom right
one. From the photo it is not clear whether this is
spontaneous vegetation or planted vegetation. Only n the
latter case I would accept the garden concept<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 11 January 2017 at 10:56, Marc
Zoutendijk <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Op 10 jan. 2017, om 05:14 heeft Marc Gemis
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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het volgende geschreven:</div>
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thought the original question was broader than
just the patches of</span><br
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<span
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next to the road. I also want to know how to
map those green</span><br
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<span
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when they are not part of roundabouts, or are
located between</span><br
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<span
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and road (where cars drive).</span></div>
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<div>To help us focus on what type of “green” I’m (and
others) are thinking of, I have prepared a
photo-collage:</div>
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<div>At the core of all this we we see:</div>
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<div>- areas of any size but more often small</div>
<div>- a variety of grass, plants, flowers and trees in
any number and combination</div>
<div>- located mostly inside urban areas </div>
<div>- there is not normally an entrance to the area but
sometime a footpath divides it</div>
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<div>Tagging this with leisure=garden covers all
situations quiet well, save for the “entrance” part.</div>
<div>One other idea was to add the operator=* tag. E.g.
operator=municipality.</div>
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<div>One of the other possibilities (proposed in the
Dutch Forum) to tackle this problem, is to redifine
village_green to mean something different in The
Netherlands then in the UK. Such local meaning of tags
we also see for highway tagging.</div>
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