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    <p>The green spaces ( and concrete or whatever) around a road are
      part of the infrastructure of a road. If the road wasn't there the
      land would have another use, such as farmland. So I believe this
      should be landuse=highway. It is being used as part of the
      surroundings of the highway. It doesn't doesn't stop someone micro
      mapping to add more detail.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
cheers
Chris Hill (chillly)</pre>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/01/2017 21:40, Warin wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">And I disagree with all of them being
        leisure=garden. <br>
        The green patches between a road and a footway are not 'leisure'
        things .. they are 'safety' things .. particularly beside busy
        roads. <br>
        <br>
        If these same areas were covered with concrete .. would you
        still think of them as 'leisure'? In other words .. are you
        associating the 'cover' with the 'use' of these areas?  <br>
        <br>
        Approach =the problem from 2 different ways of thinking -<br>
        <br>
        What is the 'cover' ... landcover ?<br>
        <br>
        and then <br>
        <br>
        What is the 'use' ... landuse?<br>
        <br>
        Once you divide those 2 things up it makes it clearer what is
        there. <br>
        <br>
        On 11-Jan-17 10:22 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote:<br>
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            <div>@<font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"><span
                    name="Marc Zoutendijk" class="gmail-gD">Marc
                    Zoutendijk<br>
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                  </span></span></font></div>
            <font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"><span
                  name="Marc Zoutendijk" class="gmail-gD">thanks for the
                  photos.<br>
                </span></span></font></div>
          <font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"><span
                name="Marc Zoutendijk" class="gmail-gD">I agree with all
                of them as leisure=garden, except for the bottom right
                one. From the photo it is not clear whether this is
                spontaneous vegetation or planted vegetation. Only n the
                latter case I would accept  the garden concept<br>
              </span></span></font> </div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On 11 January 2017 at 10:56, Marc
            Zoutendijk <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:marczoutendijk@mac.com" target="_blank">marczoutendijk@mac.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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                      <div>Op 10 jan. 2017, om 05:14 heeft Marc Gemis
                        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>>
                        het volgende geschreven:</div>
                      <br
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                      <div><span
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                          thought the original question was broader than
                          just the patches of</span><br
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                        <span
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                          next to the road. I also want to know how to
                          map those green</span><br
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                        <span
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                          when they are not part of roundabouts, or are
                          located between</span><br
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                        <span
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                          and road (where cars drive).</span></div>
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                <div>To help us focus on what type of “green” I’m (and
                  others) are thinking of, I have prepared a
                  photo-collage:</div>
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                <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://marczoutendijk.stackstorage.com/s/guN1x7PBfZfP1ZR"
                    target="_blank">https://marczoutendijk.<wbr>stackstorage.com/s/<wbr>guN1x7PBfZfP1ZR</a></div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>At the core of all this we we see:</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>- areas of any size but more often small</div>
                <div>- a variety of grass, plants, flowers and trees in
                  any number and combination</div>
                <div>- located mostly inside urban areas </div>
                <div>- there is not normally an entrance to the area but
                  sometime a footpath divides it</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Tagging this with leisure=garden covers all
                  situations quiet well, save for the “entrance” part.</div>
                <div>One other idea was to add the operator=* tag. E.g.
                  operator=municipality.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>One of the other possibilities (proposed in the
                  Dutch Forum) to tackle this problem, is to redifine
                  village_green to mean something different in The
                  Netherlands then in the UK. Such local meaning of tags
                  we also see for highway tagging.</div>
                <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>Marc Zoutendijk</div>
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