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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/11/2020 16:17, Seth Deegan wrote:<br>
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          <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycle_routes#Tagging_cycle_route_networks"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Cycle Routes Wiki Page</a> states:</p>
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            style="margin-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.1em;margin-right:0px">"It
            is preferred to tag the cycle routes using relations instead
            of tagging the ways."</dd>
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          I come across a route that has the Ways already tagged with
          the <tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr"
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a
              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name"
              title="Key:name"
              style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none"
              moz-do-not-send="true">name</a>=*</tt> of the route, can I
          delete the <tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr"
style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a
              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name"
              title="Key:name"
              style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none"
              moz-do-not-send="true">name</a>=*</tt>s in the Ways and
          just create a Route Relation with the name?</p>
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    Be careful. This is where many contributors get confused. The name
    of the *path* is often not the name of the *route*. A route relation
    can, & often does, go along paths with different names. Multiple
    routes can go along a path. <br>
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          assume this is not prefered because a number of applications
          use the names in the Ways themselves and not the Route
          Relation, most notably osm-carto.<br>
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    It renders the names of the paths, not the routes. <br>
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          0px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">However,
          some benefits of doing this might be:</p>
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1.6em;padding:0px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">
          <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Takes up less space in the DB</li>
          <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">More tags that apply to the
            whole coute could be added to the Relation like <tt
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style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a
                href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface"
                title="Key:surface"
                style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none"
                moz-do-not-send="true">surface</a>=*</tt> and <tt
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style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a
                href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source"
                title="Key:source"
                style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none"
                moz-do-not-send="true">source</a>=*</tt> (like the
            official map of the route).</li>
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    Surface has no place in a route relation as it refers diectly to the
    path, not the multiple relations passing along it. Similar for the
    source tag.<br>
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    DaveF<br>
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