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    <p><font face="Verdana">True Mira, its exactly what I noticed also.
        By just allowing marker=* to be used on a way can solve that
        problem.<br>
        I understand, you tried to solve that in trails. But maybe it
        could be a good idea to keep the tagging concept of trails more
        similar to other "way" tagging and use what we have.  You can
        also freely mix and use markers / guidepost etc.... . <br>
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    <p><font face="Verdana">No need for trailblazed,  less discussion.
        Even an opportunity to gently deprecate or replace
        "marked_trail" and "trailblazed" (none of them where accepted
        anyway). The presence of marker=* on the way designates it as a
        marked trail or being trailblazed.<br>
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    <p><font face="Verdana">You can propose a change to marker=* (node
        & way) and make a nice separate section with examples for
        trails ?</font></p>
    <p><font face="Verdana">Greetings,</font></p>
    <p><font face="Verdana">Bert Araali</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/03/2021 12:08, Jaromír Mikeš
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hello Bert,</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I like your
            idea,but I am not sure if the marker=* key perfectly fits
            here, makers as they are defined now are not meant for ways.</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I tend to
            extend the key which was from the beginning meant for trails
            ...</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">BTW I just
            updated proposal page by description how poles and cairn are
            different from guidepost and osmc trail marking </div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trailblazed%3Dpoles;cairns#Rationale"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trailblazed%3Dpoles;cairns#Rationale</a><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">best</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">mira</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">po 8. 3. 2021 v 17:24
            odesílatel Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <<a
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            napsal:<br>
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              <p><font face="Verdana">Have we all forgotten the marker=*
                  key ?<br>
                  I know, it is defined to describe an individual
                  marker, and mostly used in the context of marking some
                  utility.  The concept however and the way it is
                  described perfectly fits the purpose here.</font></p>
              <p><font face="Verdana">If we allow, or maybe better said
                  document it's possible use, on a way, it could
                  perfectly fit the purpose here, if we use it on a
                  trail, it opens the opportunity to tag the makers
                  individually or, when used on a way it indicates these
                  type of markers are used along this way.</font></p>
              <p><font face="Verdana">Much as we do and document other
                  "attribute" keys for different purposes.  <br>
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              <p><font face="Verdana">Greetings,</font></p>
              <p><font face="Verdana">Bert Araali</font><br>
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              <div>On 08/03/2021 17:11, Marc_marc wrote:<br>
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                <pre>Hello,

Le 07.03.21 à 19:03, Jaromír Mikeš a écrit :
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                  <pre>I am proposing trailblazed=poles and trailblazed=cairns to get
possibility tag trails which are marked by poles or by cairns
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trailblazed%3Dpoles;cairns" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trailblazed%3Dpoles;cairns</a> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trailblazed%3Dpoles;cairns" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trailblazed%3Dpoles;cairns></a>
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                <pre>I find this tag too specific, it implies that another tag would be
needed for the bike routes and so for each mode where it could be necessary.

Wouldn't support:symbol do the job and be more integrated
with the symbol tag ?
support:symbol=pole =tree =house =rock =ground =street_cabinet
for cairn, it's the support for a symbol ? or the cairn itselft is
the marker without any symbol on it ? if so, maybe symbol=cairn

Regards,
Marc



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