[talk-au] Why aren't my maps rendered? (yes I have read the FAQ!)

[Andrew Loughhead]

Steve wrote:
> Thanks 80n,
>
> I am pretty sure I've tagged everything (highway=primary
> highway=secondary, residential, etc..). 
Steve, I have had a quick look at that area and yes, it seems like the
Queanbeyan data are all ways, and are tagged with a valid looking value
of highway=.  Looking at your email you don't mention whether you are
looking at the default map, rendered by Mapnik, or the Osmarender map,
rendered by tiles at home.  In case you haven't noticed, you can switch
between these two versions by clicking the plus sign at the top right of
the map. 

The Osmarender layer is faster to update than Mapnik, and Osmarender is
what the informationfreeway.org website causes to update.  At zoom 14 it
looks like most of the data around Queanbeyan itself is rendered:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-35.353894047101015&lon=149.22767733196494&zoom=14,
perhaps it has re-rendered since you first asked.  On the other hand the
Sutton Road up to the Federal Highway is not rendered, in either Mapnik
or Osmarender. 

Updates of the default Mapnik map is slower.  Etienne will know the
details much better, but I think that the Mapnik map updates after the
weekly "planet dump", Monday mornings our time.  But, I think it then
updates tiles in response to them being accessed, and it may take a
little while to actually do the update.  So after each planet dump,
actually using the Mapnik map, and panning and zooming around a bit,
will help to get it re-rendered. 

I haven't yet set up Osmarender yet, so I can't do tiles at home, but
someone seems to be re-doing the Canberra area pretty frequently lately
(thanks!).  I've been doing linework in Yarralumla lately, and the
Mapnik layer has none of that, but Osmarender is only a day or two
behind.  So I think your data will turn up pretty soon, especially when
the database change on the tiles at home server is complete, when the
Osmarender layer will start updating again. 

cheers
Andrew.

> Also, I extended Canberra Ave
> (originally someone else's fine effort) and my additions inherited the
> original way's attributes. The original section comes up fine. My bits
> are still missing. I will however go and double-check my tagging
> everywhere.
>
> I take your point about the tiles at home being down due to an update. I'll
> also have a look at OSMRender. Didn't know it can run locally.
>
> Thanks very much for your advice.
>
> Steve.
>
> On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 10:56 +0100, 80n wrote:
>   
>> Steve
>> There's a fair few ways that have not been tagged with a highway tag
>> in those areas.  Streets will only get rendered if they have a
>> recognised tag like highway=unclassified or something.
>>
>> Also, the tiles at home rendering farm is suspended at present while the
>> database is being reorganised.  Once it restarts, in the next day or
>> so, there will be a backlog of tiles to upload, so it could be three
>> or four days from now before tiles at home is running normally again
>> (depending on how much of an improvement the database reorganisation
>> makes to performance).
>>
>> If you want to get some quicker rendering of your work its quite easy
>> to install and run Osmarender locally.  You can see results within a
>> few minutes if you do that. 
>>
>> 80n
>>
>> On 7/26/07, Steve <stevez at tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>         Hello,
>>         
>>         I suppose an intro would be appropriate first.
>>         I live in Queanbeyan and "discovered" OSM a couple of weeks
>>         ago. I
>>         started mapping over a week ago. I have previously submitted
>>         tracks,
>>         etc, to other mapping efforts such as T4A but the concept of
>>         actually 
>>         creating and fixing maps yourself has me very interested. OSM
>>         seems just
>>         about perfect.
>>         
>>         Anyway, for just about a whole week I have been doing streets
>>         around
>>         Queanbeyan, Oaks Estate, Captains Flat, Jerrabomberra and
>>         Bungendore. 
>>         Why aren't they rendered on the main map?
>>         
>>         I've gone to that site where you zoom to level 12 and do a
>>         ctrl-click,
>>         I've done it with tiles at home direct selected. I've waited
>>         until after
>>         the Wednesday render to get worried. I've cleared Firefox
>>         caches. 
>>         Nothing.
>>         
>>         Well, not completely true. I can see some of my additions if I
>>         go to
>>         some zoom levels, with bits missing. At other zoom levels I
>>         see nothing
>>         at all. Very frustrating as I don't want to put heaps of
>>         effort into 
>>         this if it's a bit flakey in the backend!.
>>         
>>         All my additions seem to be OK if I go into edit mode.
>>         Anyone have any suggestions as to what is wrong here?
>>         
>>         Please give me reason to stay positive as I think OSM is
>>         fantastic and 
>>         will be contributing for years if it works properly!
>>         
>>         Thanks in advance,
>>         
>>         Steve.
>>         
>>         
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