[talk-au] place=?

[Jim Croft]

Rather than a categorization, a better value for the tag would be the
actual population estimate.- the use of a value rather than a category
is common in metadata (specifying measured precision rather than
allocating a class, for example). This allows software more potential
and  flexibility in rendering and display and removes some possibility
for interpretation error.  In this case it would be a verifiable fact
that can be corrected without interpretation.

just a thought

jim

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Cameron
<osm-mailing-lists at justcameron.com> wrote:
> I think the name used in the tag is not important. I don't think I've ever
> heard of a hamlet in Australia heh. I think the words used simply  refer to
> the population of the place, not what the place is actually referred to as
> (I think I've only ever heard of towns and cities in Australia, but then I'm
> not sure where the limit is between them. A better name for the place tag
> would be place_population with values 1-10 ranging from population <5 to
> population >10 million.
>
> ~Cameron
>
> 2008/12/2 Hugh Barnes <list.osm at hughbris.com>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Another locally flavoured tagging question.
>>
>> I entered some towns recently. I got stuck wondering whether they were
>> actually towns, villages, or hamlets.
>>
>> I think Australia applies different criteria to determine this
>> designation. If
>> you follow the guidelines at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place,
>> it
>> seems to allow a village to have up to 10,00 people! Can you see where
>> this is
>> going? That may be a small place in more populous countries, but I'd
>> certainly
>> call it a town.
>>
>> Further, places like, say, Charleville (3000) or Quilpie (maybe half that)
>> are
>> definitely considered towns. They are hubs for large areas. One town I
>> wondered
>> about is Samford near Brisbane. It has 3000 or so people according to
>> Wikipedia, but it's been called a village. (I think it's actually known as
>> Samford Village.)
>>
>> So remoteness seems to count for something.
>>
>> Any other criteria you can think of?
>>
>> Is it time there were specific place designation guidelines for Oz places?
>> I
>> suspect we've been quite inconsistent in their absence.
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines
>>
>> Cheers
>>
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