[talk-au] Adelaide out of copyright street directory

Matt White mattwhite at iinet.com.au
Sun Jan 18 00:56:32 GMT 2009


I'm also a serial offender for not using the survey tag, but again, I 
upload all my traces.

I do a bit of yahoo tracing as well, and don't directly mark that either...

But then again, I don't go and screw around with any existing nodes and 
ways unless I've been there... however I have been known to add the road 
way in off a random trace that wasn't mine if I've been in the area 
(sans name generally) and the trace quality is good enough.

It's an intractable problem - forcing a source=survey/yahoo/made_up tag 
still won't solve the issue as the source tag needs to be kept up to 
date, and you can link the source tag to the individual tag within a 
node (eg: the way is yahoo sourced, the name comes from the MMBW maps, a 
local marked it one way through local knowledge, and someone added speed 
humps using a GPS trace/waypoint setup.

So the source tag contains a variety of sources, and no way of 
determining what applies to what.

In the end, the crowdsourcing approach *should* sort out the wheat from 
the chaff eventually, but no doubt there will be some hiccups along the way.

Matt

Nick Hocking wrote:
> "There is a substantial amount of data with no source tag. I'd really 
> like to
> know whether it was traced or surveyed, because then I'd know whether 
> to go
> down that street or not."
>  
> Liz,
>  
> I think there was a recent discussion about this and there was a 
> school of thought that said that if there
> were public gps traces for a way then source=survey was unnecessary.
>  
> I'm a serial offender for not adding source=survey tags but if the 
> general consensus is that it should be added
> then I will manually add this tag to any ways that I have edited - I 
> could take a while though......
>  
> I do upload public gps traces for all roads that I tag but I guess 
> that this is not a guarantee that the resultant way was
> properly surveyed.   E.G  I have about 6 thousand miles of interstate 
> traces in USA that I have stopped
> editing in because there is about to be another TIGER ravage.
>  
> Eventually someone may use these traces without  knowing if I was 
> actually driving on the road the whole time.
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