[talk-au] Adelaide out of copyright street directory

[Luke Woolley]

It seems to me that the "published edition" copyright only protects  
the layout of the actual work, for example if someone scanned a  
published edition of some kind from say 1976 then re-published it  
commercially, that would be a no-no. But since this is only deriving  
the data from it and publishing the data in a different format, it  
seems fine. If we can all agree that it is indeed safe to do this,  
then it would a big step forward in terms of source data for OSM.

Since anything which was published before January 1, 1984 can  
supposedly be used, I have a 1984 Melways, edition 15 which could be  
scanned and hosted for use by Melbourne mappers which was published in  
September 1983. It could also be taken one step further and be  
included as a background layer in Potlatch, like the old maps of the  
UK are at the moment.



On 18/01/2009, at 10:16 PM, Cameron <osm-mailing- 
lists at justcameron.com> wrote:

> My suggestion would be to seek some advice from someone who knows a  
> bit more about copyright in Australia before copying something. The  
> staff at libraries are usually trained to have some knowledge of it.  
> I don't really know what a "published edition" is.
>
> Google brought this up - http://www.unimelb.edu.au/copyright/information/fastfind/publisheded.html
>
> ~Cameron
>
> 2009/1/18 Liz <edodd at billiau.net>
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Liz wrote:
> > > Do maps fall under "published editions" or "artistic works"? Cos  
> that
> > > will make a 25 year difference...
>
> No, I'm not a lawyer (phew)
> we are certainly taking the view that a map is a collection of facts
> and certainly not an artistic work
> (although Steve did mention on legal-talk about one mapper's work of  
> a Pommie
> town that should have been considered an artistic work)
> I've just scanned a 1979 Gregory's of Wollongong.
> Do I put it on my server?
> I once had a 1980 Adelaide directory but binned it years ago as it  
> got me more
> lost than was helpful. There should be directories which are old  
> enough in
> secondhand book shops.
>
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