[talk-au] New to mapping in Perth, WA

[Liz]

I deliberately replied separately to Arie, to assure him that asking here 
would result in at least 2 different answers to every question.

>
> That does help, I've had a look at some of the suburbs where you've been
> editing and I like the result. I'm mostly collecting data / info while
> driving though so footpaths and bus stops etc can be a bit tricky. Some
> things that I haven't settled on which I'd appreciate comments on (from
> anyone who cares to respond!) are:
>
> 1) Tagging roads residential in commercial areas - there doesn't seem to
> be a better option and this is how roads have been tagged in Osbourne Park
> (as an example).
I do residential. The suggestion below for "local" makes more sense, but won't 
render without major changes to the system.
>
> 2) Lots of roads that are dual carriage way (like Ocean Reef Road) aren't
> at the moment, but making them dual carriageway is tricky with junctions.
Tricky at first, but needs doing
>
> 3) Flares at intersection - in particular tagging with name= on all the
> different ways that make up the road looks really messy. Can someone point
> to a good example of this?
Don't tag flares - they don't clearly belong to either road

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> 4) Tagging roundabouts with name= . I've seen this in quite a few places
> on the map but I'm sure I read advice to not do so somewhere - can't
> remember where. Map Features and the Aus tagging guidelines are
> non-committal on this.
Some roundabouts have a name. I tag those. I don't carry a street name over 
because it belongs to 2 streets, and roundabouts are not used where one street 
has a far greater flow of traffic than another - so no one street is ever 
going to be "more important"

>
> 5) Postcodes - I understand this is an ongoing project. As an example, see
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.9192&lon=116.1059&zoom=14
> Darlington's postcode shows up, but Mahogony Creek's doesn't even though
> the Administrative boundaries for both suburbs are part of relations
> specifying the postcode.
John will explain


>
> 4. Yes, there is conflicting advice here. My view is to name the
> roundabout. Consider a residence with driveway access from the roundabout.
> They won't be on an un-named road! I use my best judgement to use the name
> of the most important road. Watch the path direction as roundabouts
> default to oneway.
Driveways shouldn't access a roundabout (I've read big quantities of the 
Ausroads guides)


>
> * There are a lot of mini_roundabouts that should be full-blown
> junction=roundabout. In fact, I don't think I've seen anything that would
> qualify as an actual mini_roundabout. I fix those as I come to them.
> * When it comes to drawing roundabouts, I draw a diamond/square shape.
> JOSM is easier than Potlatch due to zooming. Afterwards, I use Potlatch to
> tidy that diamond/square into a nice circle.
I draw a nice circle in JOSM and then copy and paste that circle for the rest 
of my editing session.
Legally, there are NO mini-roundabouts in Australia. A mini roundabout has a 
blue sign, not a yellow one.


> * There are quite a few highway=living_street tags. I'm not so sure that
> they really do qualify as living streets. Fancy, narrow, brick-paved
> surfaces as found in new stylish subdivisions, are still just
> highway=residential to me.
I've found one in Orange with a very low speed limit and a sign indicating 
children and cars sharing the street.