[talk-au] tagging the source of edits

Steve Bennett stevagewp at gmail.com
Thu Jul 29 13:47:50 BST 2010


On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Ben Last <ben.last at nearmap.com> wrote:
> Indeed; the entire subject is shrouded in what I'd call "complexity", and
> what lawyers would call "my retirement beach house fund" :)  I look at it
> this way; imagine an eager Nearmap user buys a house in some newly developed
> area (such as Clarkson in WA, where the OSM streets frequently have no
> names) and sees that her street needs naming.  Enthusiastically, she clicks
> on the Edit button on our site, ready to help out.  What we don't want to do
> is present her with some long complex explanation of copyright and how it
> might or might not apply to her, the country she lives in and the source of
> her knowledge.  Instead, our thinking is that we present a simple "don't
> copy from existing maps" message and leave it at that.

Yes. I certainly think it's valid (and desirable) for a project like
this to shield users from the complexities of laws, by creating a
simpler policy that is guaranteed to be within the law. Wikipedia did
this by coming up with a specific set of "fair use" cases they
supported (whereas the law allows you to be as creative as you want,
since fair use is a legal defence, not an actual right).

I guess I'm questioning whether there's any need for that here, but
only half-heartedly. I have a couple of lawyer friends who I really
should set to work on this topic some day :)

(Before anyone asks, I almost always abide by the current policy of
not copying names from other sources. Occasionally I effectively copy
one, because I looked up a map in order to visit a place, and
therefore I "know" the name of it.)

I sure hope there are no councils around that claim copyright over the
set of all their street signs...

> Hmm... I'll ask that question internally :)  But it would be valid within
> Australian only,

That was another question I meant to ask. Does one map in accordance
with the legal jurisdiction that the OSM servers are within, the
jurisdiction where the mapper is, or the jurisdiction of the area
being mapped?

Steve



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