[talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

John Smith deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 17 05:37:47 BST 2010


On 17 June 2010 14:06, {Tim} <M526244+osmtau at gmail.com> wrote:
>  In essence there's six cases, varying in reliability of the result:
> 1. Example: Ballina Airport AWS
>        http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/741763977
>  * Site already exists in OSM; both WMO:id and name details match those
>   from BoM data; not updated since changeset 4762601 (John's original
>   NOAA bulk load).
>  * Location updated; old values copied into NOAA:lat, NOAA:lon, added
>   attribution source:note, and BOM:ID (new data).
>  * I consider this merge case seems pretty trustworthy.

You may need to attribute more specifically, eg

attribution=Based on Bureau of Meteorology, Australia

I'm not sure what they specifically asked for, in some cases you also
need to specifically attribute a URL

> 3. Examples: Beaudesert Drumley Street
>        http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/774393256
>         or: Hay Airport
>        http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/774393252
>  * Completely new site; BoM data lists WMO:id which doesn't occur
>   in any current OSM node.

Is this a new site, or does it no longer operate?

I thought about including stations that no longer operate and use an
end_date=* tag but eventually decided against it because some of these
ended up in the middle of what is now the gateway motorway.

> 5. Example: Alstonville Post Office

I think NOAA only lists weather stations that measure temperature,
many post offices only measure rainfall, so they would be missing for
that reason, you might want to add a note indicating that these need
to be checked for what they actually measure.

>   matched by any of the other methods, in desperation I tried a simple
>   name search across all OSM monitoring_stations to see if anything
>   might turn up. This means such ridiculous combinations as Thule, NSW
>   being matched with about three stations near Thule Airbase in
>   Greenland!

You could have used a bbox to exclude areas outside of Australia, eg:

http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*%5Bman_made=monitoring_station%5D%5Bbbox=110,-45,155,-10%5D

The co-ords above only include the area approximately covering the
Australian mainland and Tasmania, if you want external territories
such as Christmas Island and Norfolk Island, you'll need to extend it
a bit further.




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