[talk-au] OSM-F seems to be a sinking ship... (was: Wiki + Data Sources + Licensing Categories)

4x4falcon info at 4x4falcon.com
Sun Apr 10 06:29:36 BST 2011

On 10/04/11 13:14, John Smith wrote:
> On 9 April 2011 09:09, John Smith<deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 8 April 2011 20:47, John Smith<deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On 8 April 2011 16:58, Ian Sergeant<inas66+osm at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Despite your attempts to sidetrack this discussion from the your data
>>>> import to some wider OSM licencing issue, I won't be sidetracked here.
>>> The problem is no one seems to want to answer the hard questions,
>>> everyone that should be dealing with these issues just seem to want to
>>> ignore them and hope they stopped being asked. I don't wish to seem to
>>> be picking on you personally, however someone needs to man up and take
>>> responsibility for their choices or change where OSM-F is headed if
>>> the positions are unsupportable with facts.
>> And the silence continues. As I said before Ian, I'm not personally
>> looking to pick on you or anyone for that matter, but those that made
>> specific choices don't think they should justify themselves and give
>> straight answers to straight questions.
> It's starting to become painfully obvious that OSM-F wouldn't be able
> to organise a piss up in a brewery, and there seems to be little or no
> chance  that they can actually pull off the license change over in
> some kind of demotactic, moral and smooth change over so I'm basically
> writing them off for all future edits as a complete waste of time.
> A couple of us are toying about with what to do next, fosm.org seems
> the most suitable at present since the idea is to continue on with
> CC-by-SA licenses, although there is still debate over which CC-by-SA
> license due to issues with the European Database Directive, but that
> doesn't have any effect on us in Australia until and unless the
> Australian government decides to do something similar if Telstra et al
> push now that copyright doesn't protect their data.
> What do others think, or have planned if OSM-F keeps heading into the
> lost cause territory?
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At the moment I'm tending to fosm.org as it seems the most compatible 
with what I've been doing.

Having said that I'm still watching commonmap.org etc as well.

And considering setting up my own private server for Au only data for my 
own use.


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