[talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

[Sam Couter]

SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:
> No, John smith and friends are a separate issue, they troll many different discussions.

Who are "and friends"? I only watch talk-au so if there's trolling going
on elsewhere I haven't seen it. What I have seen is you dismissing others
as being deliberately disruptive or as having hidden agendas, instead of
addressing what they actually say.

> Actually no, I've said im unaware of any reasons not to accept (given we fixed near map, we fixed ordnance survey...) which is not the same as saying there aren't any.

Many reasons have been given. I'll give you my two biggest right now:
Eternal, irrevocable rights grant and indeterminate future licencing.

For my own contributions using my own GPS traces and survey work, that's
one thing. I haven't yet decided if I'll create a new OSM account and
click "Accept", I've clicked "Decline" for my existing OSM account
because of the sources I've used in the past. But I can't agree to the
CTs when I'm using CC-BY or CC-BY-SA.

Nearmap isn't the problem and doesn't need fixing, ODbL is. Maybe it
can't be fixed any time soon, but denying that it's a problem doesn't help.

> > you have denied any problems with licence incompatibility.
> 
> Where did I do that? I think I mention multiple times how many problems we have had in many areas.

You seem to think that all the Australian CC-BY and CC-BY-SA data that has
been imported can either be kept, which seems unlawful to me, or deleted
without considering it any real loss.

> [Sam:]
> > I hate to sound like a third-grader, but you started the ad hominem.
> 
> I did, where?

The first message I replied to. Accusing others of hidden agendas or riling
you up for no reason other than enjoyment.
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Sam Couter         |  mailto:sam at couter.id.au
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