[talk-au] Going separate ways

[David Groom]

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From: "Richard Fairhurst" <richard at systemed.net>
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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways


>
> David Groom wrote:
>> Which seems to me to that you are agreeing with my point, that these
>> are derivative databases, not collective databases as you first argued.
>
> No: one is a Derivative Database (ODbL) and the other a Derivative Work
> (CC-BY-SA), but the combination of the two is a Collective Database or 
> Work.
>

But as I said earlier, the ODbL seems quite clear that you cant make a 
"Collective Database" from anything other than the original database in 
unmodified form.  Since neither of the two individual items are the original 
database in unmodified form, then I cant see how you could claim the 
resulting combination is a "Collective Database" as defined by the ODbL .

Regards

David

> Derivatives have to be licensed under the licence of the original.
> Therefore, they have all the freedoms afforded by that licence. Therefore,
> they can be incorporated into Collective Works.
>
> I don't think this would work for most countries. You couldn't usefully 
> make
> a Collective Work from CC-Germany and ODbL-France, for example, because
> you'd want cross-border routing and that would mean the two databases are 
> no
> longer "separate and independent". But Australia is an island, intire of
> itself, so the issue doesn't arise. It doesn't even have a Channel Tunnel 
> to
> worry about. :)
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
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