[talk-au] Most insanely dissected street ?

Franc Carter franc.carter at gmail.com
Sun Jun 12 11:25:50 BST 2011


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Tim Challis <Tim.Challis at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/06/11 21:45, Franc Carter wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tim Challis <Tim.Challis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Mind you, for sheer municipal perversity, there is a section of Ballina
>>> Road in Lismore that has had at least three numbering schemes applied to
>>> the same houses.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>> This is probably in a different category to what you
>>> intended?
>>
>> Yep, I was thinking about things like near where I grew up where there
>> is a 40 foot cliff between one house number and the next. But other
>> road insanity is just as interesting
>>
> Douglas Street in Clovelly does something like that near the Varna
> Street intersection. I used to rent at the other end of the street.
> Presumably result of a land-slip at some stage? Who says the Sydney
> sandstone basin is stable?

Another 'good one' I have found is Como Parade
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.00314&lon=151.06853&zoom=16&layers=M),
if you are at the Bindea Street end at the number you are after is at
the Woronora Crescent end then you are going to be a little annoyed.


>
> I can't point to an example offhand, but I have heard several times from
> discussions with professional surveyors of instances where the house
> numbers down a street run out of step with property title boundaries...
> the first number might cover block one and half of the neighbouring
> block, so that as you progress down the street every subsequent house
> number lies across the two adjoining blocks. This situation is
> apparently far more common than is normally recognised!
>

That make sense given another story I heard - the database of house
numbers and the database of land boundaries are completely separate -
hmm

> Outside the urban areas, it is becoming common for street numbers to be
> based upon an approximate odometer reading (odd and even indicate which
> side of road.) E.g. 892 XXX Road  indicates the property whose nearest
> point of intersection with XXX Road lies 8.92km from the end of the road.
>
> The system has several major weaknesses: my parents' farm is split both
> sides of a particular road, and the local council has admitted when they
> assigned the numbers 30 years ago they forgot to reset the odometer!
>
> My own property (a corner block) demonstrates another problem (no, I am
> not assigned zero.)
>
> The third problem is that different councils have adopted different
> conventions for the odd-even split. Mine has even numbers on the right
> travelling away from the datum. The (different) council responsible for
> my aforementioned parents' farm wants to make even numbers indicate the
> left-hand side.
>
> In a final piece of GPS-related insanity, the RTA has been setting up
> those illuminated sign boards around this district (I am aware of at
> least seven) which are flashing various messages appropriate to the
> location, but invariably the alternate blink reads "Ignore GPS"!
> Unfortunately all are located in particularly dangerous locations to
> wander out (or park nearby) to take a picture.
>

I wonder it will ever occur to them that helping people (us ;-) fix
the GPS data is the best way of fixing the problem, given that the
'system' is so bent that I suspect the only way you can find some
things is by knowing where they are in the first place ;-(

cheers

-- 
Franc



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