[talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)
stevagewp at gmail.com
Wed Sep 7 02:55:46 BST 2011
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Ian Sergeant <inas66+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> The RTA in NSW has an internal route that they call the Princes Highway -
> which is essentially the main road heading south along the coast (give or
> take). They nominate this route because it is the one they maintain as a
> state govt road with state funding. The only problem is, the the route they
> designate often doesn't follow the road named the Princes Highway, like the
> section from Bellambi to Fairy Meadow where the RTA route called the Princes
> Highway follows the Northern Distributor, rather than the Princes Highway.
If there are two distinct Princes Highway routes, then having two
relations would be reasonable. Give them names to make it clear. If
there is a main route with alternative sections, that can be managed,
too. If an authority designates a route that doesn't use sections of
road called "Princes Highway", it's really not the end of the world.
> Other towns have a bypass route and through-town route - neither of which
> are called the Princes Highway. Which to choose?
Work it out case by case.
> What I'm talking about here is a "route" relation. I'm arguing that we
> don't need a named route relation called the Princes Highway.
But your argument consists of "I can't decide which roads should make
up the relation, so let's delete the relation".
> We should call the roads involved what they are called using the name tag on
> the roads. We should use the appropriate numerical route designators as
> they apply for the route descriptors, either using the ref tag, or a route
> relation. If people see the need to link the Princes Highway named sections
> as a common street using the appropriate relations for that purpose, then
> Do you agree?
No. Ok, you don't like the uncertainty, I see that. You want perfect,
pristine, unambiguous mapping, or nothing at all. But relations are
good, they group stuff together meaningfully, and they are useful for
> It seems the Princes Highway can mean different things to different people,
> and unlike the route and highway numbers, we don't have a fixed reference
Like I said, the world is messy and complicated, and we just have to
deal with that.
>> Route 1 is "Cairns to Darwin via coast", and was signposted thus in the
> Yeah. National Route 1 is groovy, man.
Princes Highway is part of route 1. See Wikipedia.
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