[talk-au] cities changed to towns

[Christoph Donges]

Wikipedia has some different information (with references) that are
considerably different.

Since the start of the 20th century, local government acts in each state
> specify the criteria and thresholds and applications are made to the Governors
> of the Australian states<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governors_of_the_Australian_states>.
> Population thresholds currently exist under Local government acts in most
> states including New South Wales<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales>
>  (*1919* - 25,000); South Australia (22,000); Western Australia (30,000) and
> Tasmania (10,000).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#Australia



On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Alex Sims <alex at softgrow.com> wrote:

> On 12/12/2012 2:54 PM, Nick Hocking wrote:
>
>> My view on all this is that if a place has officially been designated as
>> a city then we must tag it as such. If it is offically a town then we must
>> tag it as a town etc.
>> If we can't find any official designation then either common sense of
>> maybe a state specific rule could be applied.
>> Anyway, in my neck of the woods Goulburn really MUST revert to a city or
>> we risk alienating all NSW residents and making our map unacceptable to a
>> large number of potential users.
>>
> I had a look at cities by population from http://www.statoids.com/yau.**
> html <http://www.statoids.com/yau.html>.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/Key:place<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place>defines city "These are defined by charter or other governmental
> designation in some territories and are a matter of judgement in others.
> Should normally have a population of at least 100,000 people and be larger
> than nearby towns. "
>
> The only real issue where there might be a conflict with OSMI is Charters
> Towers with a population of 8893 which is well below 100,000. So it might
> be the Australian special case. There are three rural cities with
> population less than 10,000 in SA, Goyder, Wakefield and Light but they are
> regional names, not those of their towns (Burra, Balaklava and Kapunda).
>
> As to towns "often with a population of 10,000 people and good range of
> local facilities including schools, medical facilities etc and
> traditionally a market. In areas of low population towns may have
> significantly lower populations." and the smallest Australian one is Jabiru
> NT with 1696.
>
> So maybe as a way forward for tagging Australia
> Population > 100,000 - City
> 100,000 > Population > 10,000 - Town unless designated as a city
> 10,000 > Population > 1,000 - Village unless designated as Town or
> Charters Tower which is designated a city
> 1,000 > Population - Hamlet
>
> That should keep locals happy and still be globally consistent?
>
> Alex
>
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