[talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

Richard Colless firefly at ar.com.au
Sat Mar 31 03:59:39 BST 2012

I did decline the new terms. And I was contacted, as I said, just once, 
by someone trying to persuade me to change my mind. My point was that 
OSM never  contacted me to say that a licence change was being 
considered. That is hardly the right way to go about making a major 
change to the system.

I also take issue with this statement:

Declining hurts fellow Australian mappers who have in good faith build
data on-top of your contributions and will leave animosity between our

Don't try blaming decliners for the hurt to other mappers. If anyone 
built up on my edits, and their work gets deleted as a result, blame 
OSM, not the members who declined.


On 31/03/2012 12:36 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Like or loathe the licence change, and the manner it has been pursued, 
> sure.  But I really don't think anyone in OSM has tried to keep the 
> knowledge of the licence change quiet.  I think a fair few people have 
> been trying to get in touch with as many people as possible.
> I've personally tried contacting Australian contributors individually 
> who haven't accepted or declined, and who haven't edited for a while.  
> These are the people who may not be engaged with the community any 
> longer, and who actually may not know about the licence change.  Did 
> you decline the licence change?  Because if you did, I'd have assumed 
> that you knew about it and were aware of the discussion, and therefore 
> didn't need to be contacted.
> Thanks,
> Ian.
> On 31 March 2012 09:14, Richard Colless <firefly at ar.com.au 
> <mailto:firefly at ar.com.au>> wrote:
>     Thank you, John. I couldn't have expressed it better.
>     Throughout this whole sorry story, I have only ever received ONE
>     communication form OSM. It was a begging letter asking me to
>     reconsider. If not for the discussion of the forum, I would not
>     have even known about the licence change. AI think that shows how
>     much OSM cares about keeping contributors informed about changes.
>     Richard
>     On 31/03/2012 7:43 AM, John Smith wrote:
>         On 31 March 2012 01:54, Grant
>         Slater<openstreetmap at firefishy.com
>         <mailto:openstreetmap at firefishy.com>>  wrote:
>             Australian Decliners,
>             As a mapper, contributor and member of the project's
>             sysadmin team I
>             kindly ask you to please reconsider your declined status.
>             Time is
>             about to run out.
>         You and others didn't care about us, told us to go away as we were
>         insignificant and our issue were unimportant and now you come
>         begging
>         for us to reconsider.
>         Perhaps the whole license issue should be reconsidered, after
>         all you
>         are the one throwing out the baby with the bath water, you are
>         choosing to do this, not us, perhaps you should choose to call the
>         whole thing off.
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