[talk-au] Getting is right

[Brett Russell]

Hi

Looks good.  I might just manage not to resort to chewing my own arm off to survive. 

Get the feeling that relentless pressure from many will get the walls to crumble. So I will be the first assault with my trumpet. 

Cheers
Brett  capable of proving that a musical instrument can be an instrument of terror. 

On 11/09/2012, at 9:30 PM, "Michael Collinson" <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:

> Hi Brett,
> 
> Your email prompted me to create something I have been meaning to do for a while: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission
> 
> Hope it helps. Else, if you think meeting Vogon poetry [1] with Vogon poetry would be better, the License Working Group can help if you can get contact details and links to what the data is and how it is licensed.
> 
> Mike
> Proud Vogon Bard
> 
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogon
> 
> 
> On 11/09/2012 10:59, Brett Russell wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ian
>> 
>> Um?  Writing to a bureaucracy and reading their response thrills almost as much an month long recital of Vogon poetry.  But will give the Minister a shot once I work out the approach.  Tempted by something along the lines of "During the Second World War Britain made great attempts to keep place names secert.  Can you please tell (insert state naming registry authority) that the second world war is over."
>> 
>> Something tells me that Minister will not mind but the mapping authorities might come under pressure from the commercial mappers to hold this information back.  Stay tune but in the intervening ice age the lakes I have madly been mapping are like to have change.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> > From: inas66+osm at gmail.com
>> > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:49:46 +1000
>> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Getting is right
>> > To: brussell237 at live.com.au
>> > CC: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
>> > 
>> > On 11 September 2012 12:42, Brett Russell <brussell237 at live.com.au> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I have been looking at few commercial mapping products closely and it is interesting to see the errors.
>> > 
>> > In the cities it seems not so bad, but google maps on minor roads
>> > outside of major urban centres is a work of fiction.
>> > 
>> > > But I am curious that using the List in Tassie to check names is wrong? It is a Government service and one that actually "forces "
>> > > name changes such as the removable of possessive names and even names it does not like. Russell Fallls for example was not
>> > > correct but it subsequently decreed to be. The government surveyor stuffed that up many years ago.
>> > 
>> > The Tasmanian Government clearly claims copyright.
>> > 
>> > Why not write a nice letter to the General Manager, Information and
>> > Land Services. Set out that what OSM is, and ask for permission to
>> > check names against the LIST, and release the resulting data under a
>> > free and open licence. Say they will be attributed if they wish at
>> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors.
>> > 
>> > If they say yes, we have explicit permission. If they say no, then
>> > you probably weren't allowed to begin with.
>> > 
>> > Ian.
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