[talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au

Li Xia lisxia1982 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 02:58:23 UTC 2013


Sweet, very exciting and willing to lend a hand in the import process.

Also have a few contacts in Vicmap, and will email Nyall Dawson directly.

What tools are available for importing data (and removing duplicates)

Li.

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> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:27:15 +1000
> From: Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
> To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
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> Hi all,
>
> I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the
> entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a
> CC-Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1],
> roads [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4]
> for Victoria. I gather by
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission
> that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM.
>
> Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go
> about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work
> required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if
> there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release.
>
> Regards,
> Nyall Dawson
>
>
> 1. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/address-vicmap-address/748
> 2. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/road-network-vicmap-transport/4877
> 3. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/parcel-view-vicmap-property/2038
> 4.
> http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/locality-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2043
>
> http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/local-government-area-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2039
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:09:54 +1000
> From: Ian Sergeant <inas66+osm at gmail.com>
> To: Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM - Talk-au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
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> We should send an email to the data owner to seek permission under our
> contributor terms.
>
> I don't think there is any relationship between data.vic.gov.au and
> data.gov.au, so I don't see how any permission we have is relevant to
> this.
>
> Ian.
>
>
> On 8 July 2013 09:27, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the
> > entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a
> > CC-Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1],
> > roads [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4]
> > for Victoria. I gather by
> >
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission
> > that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM.
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go
> > about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work
> > required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if
> > there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nyall Dawson
> >
> >
> > 1. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/address-vicmap-address/748
> > 2.
> http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/road-network-vicmap-transport/4877
> > 3. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/parcel-view-vicmap-property/2038
> > 4.
> >
> http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/locality-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2043
> >
> >
> http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/local-government-area-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2039
> >
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> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 17:28:03 -0700
> From: Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com>
> To: 'Nyall Dawson' <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>, talk-au at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
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> > From: Nyall Dawson [mailto:nyall.dawson at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 4:27 PM
> > To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the
> > entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a CC-
> > Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1], roads
> > [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4] for
> > Victoria. I gather by
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_perm
> > ission
> > that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM.
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go
> > about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work
> > required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if
> > there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release.
>
> All we need from them is a statement that "a notice associated with the
> Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views,
> accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work
> aware
> that Content was obtained from the Database, Derivative Database, or the
> Database as part of a Collective Database, and that it is available under
> this License" (ODbL 4.3) meets the requirements of a notice "reasonable to
> the medium".
>
> Basically, that the attribution required by the ODbL is enough. Some cities
> have viewed CC BY's " reasonable to the medium" to mean every data source
> needs to be credited directly on a web map.
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:43:22 +1000
> From: Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com>
> Cc: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
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> >
> > All we need from them is a statement that "a notice associated with the
> > Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views,
> > accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work
> aware
> > that Content was obtained from the Database, Derivative Database, or the
> > Database as part of a Collective Database, and that it is available under
> > this License" (ODbL 4.3) meets the requirements of a notice "reasonable
> to
> > the medium".
> >
> > Basically, that the attribution required by the ODbL is enough. Some
> cities
> > have viewed CC BY's " reasonable to the medium" to mean every data source
> > needs to be credited directly on a web map.
> >
>
> Great -- this is exactly what I needed to know. I've attempted to get
> in contact with the appropriate person at data.vic.gov.au, I'll report
> back here how this goes.
>
> Cheers,
> Nyall Dawson
>
>
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