[talk-au] Fwd: Re: data.sa.gov.au
alex at softgrow.com
Thu Jul 25 06:18:43 UTC 2013
I've now obtained permission and recorded it at
This is really very helpful as it allows:
* at least a first pass for filling in "nonames" roads
* geo-referencing Bing photos against property boundaries at least near
* accurate Local Government and Suburb boundaries as opposed to ABS
* more bike lanes, playgrounds, fire stations, ambulance stations etc.
to be included
I followed a similar path to what was used for data.gov.au, and would
comment that the day to write seeking permission/clarification is today
as it takes a while, but the outcome is worth it.
Anyway I'm excited and quite pleased, just wish I had more time for mapping.
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Subject: Re: [talk-au] data.sa.gov.au
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 21:35:55 +0930
From: Alex Sims <alex at softgrow.com>
To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
I'm just writing an email now to seek a similar agreement for
sa.data.gov.au as for data.gov.au
On 25/05/2013 5:23 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
> The only issue with CC BY is that some data owners believe that
> attribution "reasonable to the medium" is more than the ODbL
> guarantees which allows "notices in a location ... where users would
> be likely to look for it" such as a wiki page linked from /copyright
> or in the case of produced works, a "notice ... reasonably calculated
> to make [anyone] aware that Content was obtained from the Database"
> (The "Database" in that quote would be what was provided under CC BY).
> Some cities releasing data as CC BY insisted that only mention on any
> page where the map was viewed was reasonable, which is clearly
> unreasonable when there can be dozens of sources on one page, or even
> *From:*Ian Sergeant [mailto:inas66+osm at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:09 AM
> *To:* Daniel O'Connor
> *Cc:* talk-au at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] data.sa.gov.au
> Hi Daniel,
> The first step should be to find out if they are willing to have their
> data relicenced under our licence?
> CC-BY data is nice, and means that the data owner is likely only
> seeking attribution (which we do provide) but my understanding is that
> it is still insufficient for us to use without further permission from
> the data owner. Pointers to our attribution page have worked in the
> past in gaining such permission.
> On 24 May 2013 18:58, Daniel O'Connor <daniel.oconnor at gmail.com
> <mailto:daniel.oconnor at gmail.com>> wrote:
> The SA govt has joined many of the other state/local governments in
> publishing open data.
> The current implementation is powered by CKAN, and though I haven't
> seen it yet, appears to be leveraging openstreetmap / cloudmade in
> some fashion.
> Anyway, the majority of the data sets are CC-A licensed, and in either
> CSV or Shapefile format:
> Some initial things that might be worth importing/using as a
> reference/looking into:
> and of course:
> Not sure how much overlap with data.gov.au <http://data.gov.au> data
> sets (assume some).
> Anyone want to have a look around and
> 1) Call out the things you think are missing
> 2) Call out the things you'd want to have imported or manually
> transcribed into open street map
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