[talk-au] data.sa.gov.au

Paul Norman penorman at mac.com
Sat May 25 07:53:09 UTC 2013

The only issue with CC BY is that some data owners believe that attribution
"reasonable to the medium" is more than the ODbL guarantees which allows
"notices in a location . where users would be likely to look for it" such as
a wiki page linked from /copyright or in the case of produced works, a
"notice . reasonably calculated to make [anyone] aware that Content was
obtained from the Database" (The "Database" in that quote would be what was
provided under CC BY).


Some cities releasing data as CC BY insisted that only mention on any page
where the map was viewed was reasonable, which is clearly unreasonable when
there can be dozens of sources on one page, or even hundreds.


From: Ian Sergeant [mailto:inas66+osm at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:09 AM
To: Daniel O'Connor
Cc: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] data.sa.gov.au


Hi Daniel,

The first step should be to find out if they are willing to have their data
relicenced under our licence? 

CC-BY data is nice, and means that the data owner is likely only seeking
attribution (which we do provide) but my understanding is that it is still
insufficient for us to use without further permission from the data owner.
Pointers to our attribution page have worked in the past in gaining such


On 24 May 2013 18:58, Daniel O'Connor <daniel.oconnor at gmail.com> wrote:

The SA govt has joined many of the other state/local governments in
publishing open data. 


The current implementation is powered by CKAN, and though I haven't seen it
yet, appears to be leveraging openstreetmap / cloudmade in some fashion.


Anyway, the majority of the data sets are CC-A licensed, and in either CSV
or Shapefile format:


Some initial things that might be worth importing/using as a
reference/looking into:








and of course:



Not sure how much overlap with data.gov.au data sets (assume some).


Anyone want to have a look around and

1) Call out the things you think are missing

2) Call out the things you'd want to have imported or manually transcribed
into open street map

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