[talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

[Ian Sergeant]

Hi,

It seems the point of the three relations is to identify which parts
of the trail are accessible to which categories of users.  How do you
intend to encapsulate that info?

What is the basis for splitting the trail into state sections, and
putting three relations into another reln?  I don't think relations of
relations is well supported, and I can't see the motivation for it
here.

Ian.


On 22 November 2013 20:52, Mander Li <mander2li at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> I tried to create a "Bicentennial National Trail" relation, but found 4
> relations of this name:
>
> Relation 176684: created in July 2009 by John Henderson with route=hiking.
> This covers 213km from Canberra CBD to Taralga (half way between Canberra
> and Sydney)
>
> Relation 2347837 created on 13/8/2012 by Nick Barker with route=hiking. This
> covers about 95% of VIC section, 40% of Canberra section, 2% of NSW section,
> 1% of QLD section. Total 715km of which 53km of the Dargo High Plains Road
> is not part of the BNT
>
> Relation 2347838 created on 13/8/2012 by Nick Barker with route=bicycle.
> This is almost the same as Relation 2347837 (with less ways and without the
> 53km of Dargo High Plains Road). Total 645km.
>
> Relation 2347839 created on 13/8/2012 by Nick Barker with route=mtb. This is
> the same as Relation 2347838.
>
> Question for Nick Barker: Why 3 relations? BNT is a trail for walkers,
> MTBers, and horses, so these 3 relation will be the same.
>
> Question for John Henderson and everybody: what should be the route type
> (route=hiking, bicycle  or mtb) when the trail is for walkers, MTBers and
> horses?
>
> I suggest:
> 1. Relation 2347837: to be renamed as Bicentennial National Trail - VIC
> section; and remove sections in other states
>
> 2. Relation 2347838: to be renamed as Bicentennial National Trail - NSW
> section; remove sections in other states; and merge with Relation 176684
>
> 3. Relation 2347839: to be renamed as Bicentennial National Trail - QLD
> section; and remove sections in other states
>
> 4. Relation 176684: remove all sections; put Relations 2347837, 2347838,
> 2347839 into it as members; ie this relation will become a super-relation
> with 3 relations as member
>
> 5. Change all 4 relations to have tags: route=mtb, foot=yes and horse=yes
> IMHO, this is becasue 1) BNT is for road bikes, 2) trails for hiking may not
> allow MTB, 3) 99.9% of trails that allow MTB also allow walkers, 4) it
> allows the tags "mtb:difficulty=advanced, and mtb:type=crosscountry as in
> now Relation 2347838
>
> John Henderson, you won't be able to see the trail at
> hiking.waymarkedtrails.org, but it will be at mtb.waymarkedtrails.org.
>
> Any comments? or I'll do it.
>
>
> Mander
>
>
>
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