[talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 76, Issue 8

Mon Oct 14 06:47:36 UTC 2013

Gday Ross,

Great workflow suggestion mate. To clarify, when you say compare, you mean
manually in JOSM right?

Li.

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> From: Ross Scanlon <info at 4x4falcon.com>
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> Subject: Re: [talk-au] vicmap data licensing
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> Cut the data into small chunks (0.25 x 0.25 deg).
>
> Load each chunk it into josm.
>
> Download the relevant area to a separate layer.
>
> Compare with what is already there.
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> Expect to spend a least 2 hours with each chunk depending on what data
> your adding.
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> Cheers
> Ross
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> On 11/10/13 06:37, Li wrote:
> > Does anyone have experience on importing data? In particular avoiding
> > duplicates?
> >
> > Li.
> >
> > On 10 Oct 2013, at 5:16 pm, Ben Kelley <ben.kelley at gmail.com
> > <mailto:ben.kelley at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> I guess the thing to consider is how you would handle a second import
> >> if someone had edited the data in OSM in between.
> >>
> >> I think this kind of conflict would be very difficult to resolve. You
> >> could either plan to do a 1-off import, or maybe include a tag on the
> >> imported data matching a unique identifier for the same feature in the
> >> vicmap data. The US Tiger import did something like this.
> >>
> >> - Ben Kelley.
> >>
> >> On 10 Oct 2013 17:12, "Li Xia" <me at lixia.co <mailto:me at lixia.co>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hi everyone,
> >>
> >>     I'm meeting Vicmap and data.gov <http://data.gov> staff tomorrow
> >>     to get their blessing on importing vicmap data into OSM.
> >>
> >>     Once the licensing is squared away, we can move onto discussing
> >>     techniques of importing the data. "Snapshot" data in shp format is
> >>     available from data.vic.gov.au <http://data.vic.gov.au>.
> >>     Alternatively a vicmap provides a live feed to weekly data diffs
> >>     directly. Any advice on how to import this data is much appreciated.
> >>
> >>     Li
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> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:41:02 +1030
> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <daniel.oconnor at gmail.com>
> To: Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [talk-au] South Australia Suburb Boundries
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> Did the bits to produce .osm files (again on github); suitable to open up
> and view in JOSM.
>
> I spot checked two areas near me that I know well, and the accuracy is
> pretty high.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/241675341
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/241667279
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> I guess this discussion probably does want to head over to the imports list
> shortly.
>
> Any volunteers to help write up a fairly complete plan? I really don't
> fancy doing ~3000 suburb boundaries one by one in JOSM and checking them
> all myself; on top of doing all of the writeups/status updates/etc.
> Also, I have overseas travel in the coming weeks; so am likely to vanish
> half way through the conversation unless there's at least one other mapper
> with ownership.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Plan_Outline
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> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Daniel O'Connor <daniel.oconnor at gmail.com
> >wrote:
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> > I did look through a few of the existing tools; but most fell into the
> too
> > hard basket. In the end, manually doing it via QGIS and exporting into
> the
> > right projection was fairly easy.
> >
> > I've pushed to github what I've done; which is produce geojson & kml
> > serializations of it - I had assumed geojson.io would let me export
> > easily to OSM, but unfortunately that's not the case.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/CloCkWeRX/data.sa.gov.au-suburb-boundaries/blob/master/suburbs/suburbs_0.geojson
> >
> > Repo:
> > https://github.com/CloCkWeRX/data.sa.gov.au-suburb-boundaries/
> >
> > Anyway, I'm more or less going to stop there, unless someone wants to do
> a
> > quick bit of geojson -> osm; with the appropriate tagging and shoot in a
> > pull request or two - I'll let others shepard it through the import
> process
> > and de-duplication.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On 6 October 2013 18:25, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:
> >> > There are numerous tools for converting from shapefiles to .osm. Both
> >> > shp-to-osm and ogr2osm work and you can find more info on the wiki.
> >>
> >> ogr2ogr v1.10 can also do it I believe.
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