[talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia

Ben Kelley ben.kelley at gmail.com
Sun Jan 19 09:48:47 UTC 2014


Hi.

I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for
these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin boundary.

City is not gazetted. E.g. Sydney is a suburb. An address in nearby Pyrmont
is not in Sydney (the suburb), so saying it is in a city called Sydney
might be confusing.


  - Ben Kelley.
 On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, "Stéphane Guillou" <stephane.guillou at gmail.com>
wrote:

>  Thanks everyone for your input.
>
> I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries
> and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as
> possible.
> Still, I will be following the recommendations on the Key:addr page for
> addr:country=AU.
>
> However, I am still unsure about suburb vs city. Key:addr tells us to
> watch out for the Australian definition of suburbs, and Wikipedia says the
> following:
>
> "In Australia and New Zealand, suburbs have become formalised as
> geographic subdivisions of a city and are used by postal services in *
> addressing*."
>
> As we are here tagging the address, I was wondering: are we tagging so the
> addresses appear as they should when we use them (e.g. when we write them
> on an envelope) - the original point of tagging an address I guess - (in
> which case I would just go with addr:city=The Gap), or should we understand
> the tags as literally as possible (in that case, I would go
> addr:city=Brisbane and addr:suburb=The Gap).
>
> What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add
> guidelines for OSM-AU?
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane (chtfn)
>
> On 19/01/14 11:04, Ross Scanlon wrote:
>
> I'd suggest you check this page
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr
>
> You'll see that the addr:country is supposed to be:
>
> "The ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 two letter country code in upper case."
>
> We are talking addresses not is_in.
>
> Also addr:state can be either but it tends to be the abbreviation.
>
> Cheers
> Ross
>
>
> On 19/01/14 09:42, cleary wrote:
>
>
> I prefer
> state=Queensland
> state_code=QLD
> country=Australia
> country_code=AU
> which I understand is consistent with
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in
>
> While there is scope for abbreviations in certain special identified
> categories, the norm remains that names written in full. It seems to me
> that the "state", "state_code", "country" and "country_code" tags make
> adequate provision for both.
>
>
>
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