[talk-au] Vicmap data copying

[Warin]

On 19/05/2014 11:42 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Humm .. there are places I've been before GPS... One example:
>
>     I know the road is there as I've been on it. However it is now
>     closed for vehicles - inside a National Park. I've mapped bits of 
>     it into OSM as it may be of use to walkers. The bit I cannot 'see'
>     with imagery I've connected with very apparent straight lines. I
>     do have copyright maps of the area but I'm not looking at those
>     now (they were current when I was there ... many years ago!). I'm
>     not going back there, I've many other (new to me) places to go.
>     Nor would I request someone to go there. Someone probably will go
>     there .. but I'll leave their interest and trip up to them. So I'm
>     adding stuff that I think is of use, an indication rather than
>     accurate in some places .. but those bits are straight lines and
>     anyone who knows the area will know that those are not 'truth'.
>
>
> Yeah, someone (you?) added lots of tracks through the Victorian Alps 
> in very low detail. It was actually incredibly helpful, and really 
> motivated me to go through and improve them all - rather than starting 
> from a blank slate. And in certain areas, I get a real kick out of 
> doing very high quality aerial mapping like this: http://bit.ly/1hXv9KZ

Glad it helps, and should have made a good trip. And ... no I don't 
think that was me ... NSW, Tas, some bits along the Nullabor IIRC.
>
>     I've been deleting the tag "name={Unnamed]" and adding the tag
>     "unsigned=yes", in one case I 'know' the roads name .. but my
>     source I remember as a street directory . So I cannot use it
>     untill the memory fades a bit more. In most cases I've been past
>     some of the roads .. and there is no street sign (indeed most have
>     no power poles nor street lighting). In this case I think it can
>     be changed without 'knowing' as the intent is clear - there is no
>     local sign to get a name from .. at least not when the tag was added.
>
> Sounds sensible.
>
> What about this confusing one: http://bit.ly/1hXvwVK
>
> The picnic ground/campsite is literally signed "No Name", and that's 
> how everyone refers to it. I have no idea what the history is. (And 
> there's a corner on the way up Mount Buller called 'Unnamed corner').

Well if you add the tag source:name then it should be clear that it is a 
real name? Rather than a description .. like "Service Road", "No Public 
Access" ... in some ways I don't mind that in the name tag as it does 
convey information that may not be avaliable otherwise.

The tag unsigned come from the wiki
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Noname
I don't like the finality of the tag noname as that implys there is no 
name at all... the sign may be missing .. but it may still have a name. 
Even just a local name that the locals use to idntify it.

I tend to map stuff that is there .. as even if you cannot use it for 
access (closed for whatever reason) you can use it for navigation .. but 
there are other views.
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/6728/tagging-historicunsignedunmaintained-trails



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