[talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks

[forster at ozonline.com.au]

Hi

I spoke with the ranger and he said it was OK for walkers to use  
though this was not my understanding of the regulations, my  
understanding was that all park users should keep to authorised  
trails. The ranger suggested that if it is mapped at all it should be  
tagged walker=yes bicycle=no, we did not discuss horses but I am  
fairly sure it should be horses=no.

Maybe I got the tagging wrong? I am new to this and maybe ID hides  
some of the subtle tagging features. Please fix it if I have  
misunderstood something.

Tony

> Hi Tony,
>
> Why did you tag like that and how does that apply to the discussions
> we've had here? I don't think you have tagged it very well. Why haven't
> you tagged it as walker=no as well? And if it's everyone=no then why
> didn't you use an access tag like the suggestions posted here?
>
> David
>
>
>
>> Thanks Steve91 and all who have contributed to this thread.
>>
>> In the end I changed the access tag to horses no bicycles no but left
>> the name unchanged. I referenced these discussions in the change
>> comment.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I'm user Steve91.
>>>
>>> I did not put the original track in OSM, the changeset that is
>>> referenced is to me improving the accuracy of the upper (eastern)
>>> section of the track. The upper section of the track has been in
>>> existence for over a year or two. And appears to be well used/good
>>> condition.
>>>
>>> I do not know where the name came from. I only map what is on the
>>> ground and the way this track is follows what I know as single
>>> track mtb.
>>>
>>> There is no signs stating no access, this is a formed path. As are
>>> many others in the area. Even the official ones aren't signed.
>>>
>>> I strongly discourage the removal of the track as OSM is a map of the
>>> world and not the map of parks vic. If it exists then it can be
>>> mapped.
>>>
>>> I don't mind removal of the name, however the original author might.
>>>
>>> These are just my views, always happy to consider other views.
>>>
>>> Steve.
>>>
>>> -----Original message----- Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2015 at 03:52:28
>>> From: forster at ozonline.com.au To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org Subject:
>>> Re: [talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks Thanks for
>>> the replies
>>>
>>> The track exists and is mappable. It is not blocked off.
>>>
>>> Parks Vic prefers light handed regulation so I used mild language to
>>> describe the track status.
>>> http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/315692/Park-note-Lysterfield-Lake-mountain-bike-riding.pdf
>>> actually states: "Cyclists are not permitted to create new tracks,
>>> ride through bush or ride on tracks other than those designated for
>>> Mountain Bike riding."
>>>
>>> Possibly tag it access=no and rename it to "Track closed" depending
>>> on how widely the name "Ant Track" is known. It may be known as Ant
>>> Track by a very small group of riders.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the contact info, I didn't want to start an edit war with
>>> the author. I will contact them.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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