[talk-au] Refreshing NSW place names from the GNB database.

Andrew Harvey andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 01:55:36 UTC 2016


As far as I can tell, this data isn't available under a free and open
license, so unless there is documentation somewhere to suggest otherwise,
it shouldn't have been imported to begin with and certainly shouldn't be
added again.

On 7 April 2016 at 11:30, Andrew Davidson <u887 at internode.on.net> wrote:

> There was an import of NSW places from the GNB database done back in 2008
> with a helpful wiki page ;-)
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NSW_Geographic_Names_Import
>
> I'm proposing to review these to see what's changed in the last 8 years
> but I've run into a number of problems:
>
> 1. It would seem that the original import was not complete
> 2. The nswgnb tags have not survived well
> 3. The GNB has "helpfully" created entries for the address localities but
> these seem to have taken on the reference numbers for the original
> town/village/city. They've created new entries for the original entity but
> this means that the town/village/city now has a different reference number.
> 4. Sometimes the locality entry has the same location but at other times
> it can be separated by up to 5km.
>
> Initially I thought that the multiple GNB references could be entered with
> multiple values like this:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3118349777
>
> but this doesn't naturally tell you how the place:nswgnb and ref:nswgnb
> line up and it doesn't lend itself to adding the alt_names that are in the
> database. As an alternative I'd like to use this scheme*:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/113135446
>
> which requires swapping the namespace prefix around to make nswgnb the
> namespace. I think this makes it clearer how the GNB categories line up and
> can be extended for more names (There is at least one place in NSW with
> three different variant names).
>
> I'm also proposing to put the LOCALITY or SUBURB entry at the same place
> as the corresponding TOWN/VILLAGE/CITY etc entry (provided that it still
> falls inside the admin_level 10 boundary).
>
> Any views on these ideas? I think the most important thing is will this be
> useful for the next person who looks at this in 5 to 10 years from now?
>
>
> *Unusually the admin_level 10 boundary for this area is called Lake
> Tabourie and has a separate GNB entry:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4103653600
>
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