[talk-au] GNAF (address) data re-visited

[Warin]

On 6/26/2016 10:11 AM, cleary wrote:
> Thanks to Simon and Andrew for your responses which I now understand.  
> Can I now follow-on and request clarification about other data from 
> data.gov.au - for example the sources listed in the wiki for 
> Queensland Local Government Areas and QLD Suburb/Locality Boundaries 
> which are CC-BY-4.0 but do not have restrictions such as the mailout 
> condition in GNAF address data.  Is it safe for me to add data from 
> these Queensland administrative boundary data sources?
> I'm sorry to be a nuisance about the legality of our sources but I 
> struggle with some of the nuances and I don't want to create problems 
> that need to be sorted out at a later date.

I too find legalese to be less than interesting.
There is a good deal of address data in NSW LPI base map... but it looks 
to me that it has to be manually entered so very labour intensive. My 
present thinking is it would be nice to have the start and end address 
house numbers for the business areas of cities/towns. But I already am 
dragging the chain in a few areas .. post offices and libraries from the 
LPI for instance. Then there is camp sites, tourist information offices..

> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016, at 01:09 AM, Simon Poole wrote:
>>
>> The simple answer is "NO", the G-NAF data is published under a 
>> non-open custom licence and currently can not be used directly in OSM.
>>
>> Every communication we've had with the relevant authorities has 
>> indicated that they are at this time not moving away from the 
>> non-open licence. This may change in the future, but hasn't at this 
>> point in time.
>>
>> Using it for QA etc. is likely possible, but given the low number of 
>> addresses we have in Australia to start with is likely not going to 
>> help a lot.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> Am 25.06.2016 um 05:35 schrieb cleary:
>>> I'm sorry that I'm slow in picking up an old thread from about six 
>>> months ago but I remain uncertain about the implications.
>>>
>>> As I understand the situation, the licence that accompanies the GNAF 
>>> (address) data from data.gov.au is not itself adequate for OSM. 
>>> However the data it is covered by the explicit permission to which 
>>> Daniel O'Connor referred and which is clearly published in the OSM 
>>> Wiki at 
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission. 
>>> Therefore it seems we are able to use the GNAF (address) data in OSM.
>>>
>>> Please correct me if I have misunderstood the issues in this discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015, at 08:51 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just had a quick look at the licence terms. While the license is 
>>>> based on CC by 4.0 (which is own can of worms) it unluckily 
>>>> contains a provision prohibiting specific use that makes the data 
>>>> clearly (as in we will never, in no circumstances be able to adhere 
>>>> to the terms) unusable for OSM and further means it does not meet 
>>>> the definition herehttp://opendefinition.org/od/1.0/en/.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 07.12.2015 um 03:50 schrieb Daniel O'Connor:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Many of you may be interested in
>>>>> https://blog.data.gov.au/news-media/blog/geocoded-national-address-data-be-made-openly-available
>>>>>
>>>>> Provided the license is CC-BY-3.0 or better; we already have 
>>>>> explicit permission to use said data:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you interested in what specific data this is, I'd 
>>>>> encourage you to have a read of:
>>>>> https://www.psma.com.au/sites/default/files/g-naf_product_description.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Of interest to us:
>>>>>  * Address points with geocoding and full structured address 
>>>>> information
>>>>>  * Authoritive street names for a given suburb, with geocoding 
>>>>> (points though, not polylines)
>>>>>  * Authoritative suburb/locality points, geocoded - likely of 
>>>>> better accuracy than ABS "Statistic Suburb" data.
>>>>>  * Data refreshed quarterly; sourced from local and state 
>>>>> government (so emailing your council to submit a data correction 
>>>>> from survey is plausible)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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