[talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

Graeme Fitzpatrick graemefitz1 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 16 05:57:28 UTC 2017


Have been reading those old threads - what a bunfight! :-(

Thanks

Graeme


On 16 March 2017 at 08:33, Andrew Davidson <theswavu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sigh...I was hoping that no-one would ever re-open the data.gov.au
> permission can of worms.
>
> The general view is that to use CC-BY data in OSM we need explicit
> permission from the *rights holder* (https://wiki.openstreetmap.or
> g/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility). data.gov.au is a dataset aggregation
> system, they are not the rights holder for any of the datasets listed
> (other than possibly the PSMA datasets). In this case the rights holder is
> the Gold Coast Council so you need to get permission from them.
>
> In fact if you want to list your datasets on data.gov.au you have
> explicitly state that you understand that DPMC takes no responsibility:
>
> https://toolkit.data.gov.au/index.php?title=Starting_on_data
> govau#Creating_and_editing_your_organisations_information
> _and_data_categorisation
>
> Which is kind of the opposite of transferring any rights to them.
>
> For those who want a hair-raising read you can check out the list
> discussion from way back at the licence change under the subject "ODbL
> data.gov.au permission granted":
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2011-Septe
> mber/thread.html
>
> through to about Dec 2011.
>
>
>
> On 15/3/17 23:13, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, at 05:38 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>
>>> G'day all
>>>
>>> A while back, mentioned about using Gold Coast City Council data.
>>>
>>> Been too many other things going on to contact them, but just looked into
>>>
>> it again & found this new page:
>> http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/open-data-access-project-21818.html
>>
>>>
>>> Could some clever person please translate it into OSM for me? :-)
>>>
>>> Also tried to send an e-mail to their listed address & it's spat back as
>>>
>> undeliverable to a different GCCC address?
>>
>> I believe the consensus is we can include the data at
>> http://data.gov.au/organization/city-of-gold-coast per
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_
>> explicit_permission
>> .
>>
>> If you're planning on importing Gold Coast City Council data into OSM, you
>> can read through https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines.
>>
>> I'm interested to know which datasets you plan to import, your mapping of
>> the tags, and the process you'll use (will you manually merge existing
>> objects?)
>>
>>
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