[talk-au] Simpson Desert

[Phil Wyatt]

Thanks Warin

 

It’s not always obvious which tags are best (to any of us). My background is from a management point of view where unfortunately these days anything that gets onto maps can be misinterpreted by poorly equipped or inexperienced  tourists so I always use the precautionary approach and would generally use the ‘least developed’ tagging in these sorts of areas. I agree primary and secondary are not appropriate.

 

Hema certainly has them as the same classification right across but they also have a higher classification into Dalhousie, reducing after that. Are they about the same as the Mt Dare Road (tertiary in OSM)?

 

I have only driven on the periphery of the desert tracks – not across, so just going on that knowledge and other mapping products

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Warin [mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2018 2:41 PM
To: Phil Wyatt
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Simpson Desert

 

Note: This came through as a private message - not on the list.
 
 I have travelled on these roads.
Due to there length and popularity I would tend to go tertiary. 
They are not council maintained so fail to go on the council classification system - so the SA "D" classification cannot be used. 
. 
The OZie wiki guidance page ..umm for the section 'Unsealed and 4wd Roads' lists for 4 wd only from 'track' up to 'primary' as possible classifications .. I don't think 'primary' nor 'secondary' are appropriate.
 
 
Note that it is not I who placed the tertiary class on the western section (dates back to 2012). 
I'll add 
4wd_only=yes/recomended
tracktype=grade7? or there abouts...  
lanes=1
to the roads on my next upload. 
On 23/12/18 12:04, Phil Wyatt wrote:

There is some good guidance on roads at the Aussie wiki page
 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines 
 
The render may also change depending on other tags (aside from tertiary) and you shouldn’t really tag just to get the render you want (plus it may be different in other renderers)
 
I am not sure I would call any of those roads tertiary but that’s just me - I would go unclassified
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Warin [mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2018 11:22 AM
To: talk-au
Subject: [talk-au] Simpson Desert
 
Hi
 
I have change Dalhousie from village to locality .. no 
permanentpopulation let alone any services here.
 
 
The 'French Line' is tagged as 'tertiary' on the western side yet 
'unclassified' on the eastern side.
 
 
Both sides should be the same. In rendering terms I prefer 'tertiary'.
 
The 'Rig Road' should have the same classification too,
 
as should the major connecting roads between the 2 and then the major 
connections off to the 'outside world'.
 
 
Any objections to 'tertiary' out here?
 
 
 
 
 
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