[talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney -completed

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 23:29:49 UTC 2019

I have done the ones in Sydney + Newcastle-
brought the Stand information to the front of the name, I have left the 
rest of the information alone.

I'll make a note in the OSM Aust guidelines about it.

I'll have a look at other capitols later.

On 24/01/19 14:40, Warin wrote:
> The ref number is included in the GTFS data which has been applied for 
> in April (last year).
> https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/timetables-complete-gtfs 
> (GTFS 'stop_id' I think is OSMs 'ref')
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue
> As there is an election coming up .. would some political pressure 
> promote the processing of this application?
> ------------------------
> At the moment my thinking on bus stops tagging is
> name= tag .. move the 'Stand' information to the beginning of the text 
> etc
> ref= tag ... use this for the reference number - this appears to be 
> used by some renders and is helpful in using transport planners.
> comment= tag use this for any route information that maybe present. 
> Useful for mappers to check/use for route relations
> On 22/01/19 13:01, cleary wrote:
>> In Sydney, many stops display the stop number but I'm not sure if we 
>> have another source for this data - in NSW, the convention is that 
>> the first four numbers  are the postcode of the suburb. So all stops 
>> in Strathfield would have a 6 or 7 digit number with the first four 
>> digits being the postcode for the suburb.  For example stands A to D 
>> at Strathfield have their numbers included in OSM with the tag 
>> "local_ref="
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019, at 12:21 PM, Warin wrote:
>>> On 22/01/19 12:03, Sam Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 1/21/19 4:58 PM, Warin wrote:
>>>>> I have used (misused?) the ref to tag the routes that use that bus
>>>>> stop, then some one has put the stop 'number' in as local_ref.
>>>>> Possibly the stop number is a 'operator_ref' ... whatever, no
>>>>> practical use to the normal person.
>>>> I actually find the ref super useful, because with the Transperth app
>>>> in WA you can search by stop ID and it's quicker and a lot more
>>>> accurate than searching by street name etc. They're displayed in
>>>> OSMAnd, and that's usually where I get them from.
>>> How do you know the number to start your search?

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