[talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Thu Jan 24 03:40:47 UTC 2019


The ref number is included in the GTFS data which has been applied for in April (last year).

https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/timetables-complete-gtfs (GTFS 'stop_id' I think is OSMs 'ref')

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue

As there is an election coming up .. would some political pressure promote the processing of this application?


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At the moment my thinking on bus stops tagging is

name= tag .. move the 'Stand' information to the beginning of the text etc

ref= tag ... use this for the reference number - this appears to be used by some renders and is helpful in using transport planners.

comment= tag use this for any route information that maybe present. Useful for mappers to check/use for route relations


On 22/01/19 13:01, cleary wrote:
> In Sydney, many stops display the stop number but I'm not sure if we have another source for this data - in NSW, the convention is that the first four numbers  are the postcode of the suburb. So all stops in Strathfield would have a 6 or 7 digit number with the first four digits being the postcode for the suburb.  For example stands A to D at Strathfield have their numbers included in OSM with the tag "local_ref="
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> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019, at 12:21 PM, Warin wrote:
>> On 22/01/19 12:03, Sam Wilson wrote:
>>> On 1/21/19 4:58 PM, Warin wrote:
>>>> I have used (misused?) the ref to tag the routes that use that bus
>>>> stop, then some one has put the stop 'number' in as local_ref.
>>>> Possibly the stop number is a 'operator_ref' ... whatever, no
>>>> practical use to the normal person.
>>> I actually find the ref super useful, because with the Transperth app
>>> in WA you can search by stop ID and it's quicker and a lot more
>>> accurate than searching by street name etc. They're displayed in
>>> OSMAnd, and that's usually where I get them from.
>> How do you know the number to start your search?
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