[talk-au] Copying address from business website?

Sebastian S. mapping at consebt.de
Fri Jul 26 13:50:47 UTC 2019


Hi Kim,
If you have added the website tag I must have missed it, too many tabs.
I did not mean to come across condescending. I'm sorry.
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On 26 July 2019 9:51:19 am AEST, Kim Oldfield <osm at oldfield.wattle.id.au> wrote:
>Hi Sebastian,
>
>The source website was in the tag I added: 
>website=http://www.maroondahleisure.com.au/venues/maroondah-nets/
>
>My understanding of how to use source is as a generic description of 
>where the information came from, rather than an exact reference. For 
>example https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source lists 
>source="aerial imagery" as commonly used, while I would have expected
>it 
>to be depreciated with preference to the name of the aerial imagery 
>used, eg source=bing.
>
>
>On 26/7/19 9:02 am, Sebastian Spiess wrote:
>> Hi, I find it odd that you state source:website but don't proved the 
>> website in the website tag. Why not?
>>
>> PS: I see the website of the business as the virtual front and 
>> consider the information public as any sign etc on the actual shop.
>So 
>> Yes I do this also all the time. (Individual POIs, not mass import)
>>
>> Am 2019-07-22 15:47, schrieb Kim Oldfield:
>>> Graeme: It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who has done
>this.
>>> This particular change caused me to reconsider how appropriate it is
>>> as it was all sourced from the website so I used source=website
>which,
>>> when viewed superficially, appears to contradict guidelines for
>where
>>> to source map data.
>>>
>>> Andrew: It is nice to know that this is generally considered OK for
>>> individual facts.
>>>
>>> Adrian: As part of manually adding these facts I check that the
>>> address I'm adding is for this physical location, ie at least the
>>> street adjoins the business being tagged.
>>>
>>> On 22/7/19 3:28 pm, Adrian Hobbs wrote:
>>>> Might be issues where contact address (e.g. head office) being 
>>>> copied is different to physical location on map.
>>>> Adrian Hobbs
>>>>
>>>> ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Jul. 2019, 15:21, at 15:21, Andrew Harvey 
>>>> <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> This has come up a few times on the mailing lists, and the advise
>>>>> usually
>>>>> given is it's okay to source a few facts here and there like the
>>>>> address or
>>>>> contact number, but just don't start taking a whole database of
>venues
>>>>> and
>>>>> copy that database.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 13:06, Kim Oldfield
><osm at oldfield.wattle.id.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it acceptable to copy a street address (and other contact
>details)
>>>>>> from a business's webpage?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72452124
>(what
>>>>>> changed is easier to see at
>>>>>> https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/705884944 ) I
>added
>>>>> the
>>>>>> street address as listed on their website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this isn't acceptable, what is an acceptable way of getting an
>>>>>> address if it is not obvious during a site survey?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Kim
>>>>>>
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