[talk-au] Station areas for railway=station

[Warin]

On 14/03/19 10:18, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> You're right railway=station per the wiki
+1
>
>     Railway stations are mapped as an area covering the whole station
>     (tracks, buildings, platforms, etc.) or a node at the center of
>     the station from passengers' point of view. This is usually an
>     unconnected node at the platform area. This node does not have to
>     be part of a railway track.
>     If you want to map the station as an area, please consider that
>     different people describe the station area differently. While
>     passengers only have the area around the station building and the
>     platforms in mind, railway staff and railway enthusiasts think of
>     the whole railway area which begins at the entry signal at one
>     side and ends at the entry signals at the other side.
>
>
> So https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34891023/ should be 
> railway=station in my opinion, that would cover the whole area and 
> encompass all the platforms, buildings, roofs, and tracks which are 
> part of Central Station.
>
> I agree the building roof's shouldn't have the name Central Station, 
> it should come from the railway=station areas which encompasses them.
>
> That would involve moving all the station tags off 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16748116 and onto the current 
> landuse way.

If https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34891023/ is to be the 
railway=station then it needs to be expanded to include the are of 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16748116

And https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16748116 needs some corrections! 
The area is not a stop for a train. And it is only part of a 
public_transport=station

Note: don't be too hard on the mappers who added these. OSM is 
developing over time and the OSM definitions of thing can and do change 
over time so past entries may have been correct at the time of entry. On 
the other hand .. we all make errors!
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 08:31, Thomas Manson <thomas.manson at outlook.com 
> <mailto:thomas.manson at outlook.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I am new to Open Street Maps, so I apologise if I miss something
>     obvious.
>
>     I am working with the developers of an app for vision impaired
>     users that helps then navigate unfamiliar locations, and we are
>     trying to help them navigate train stations in Australia, and I am
>     specifically looking at Central Statin in Sydney.
>
>     From my reading of the Tag:railway=station notes here
>     (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstation), it
>     appears that a station area should include the whole area of the
>     station. At Central station, this is not the case, and the
>     platform rooves have been added as standalone features, with no
>     association with the Central Station. This has resulted in the app
>     calling these out as additional features in the area, which
>     confuses our users, as they are not separate features.
>
>     I initially tagged each roof with the Name of Central station, but
>     it was pointed out to me that this is probably incorrect, and I am
>     happy to remove those names. However, I would like to propose
>     changing the shape of the feature with tag:railway=station to
>     include the area that has the platform rooves too. The features
>     that are the rooves would still be there as individual features.
>
>     Can anyone tell me if this is a good idea, or something I
>     shouldn’t do?
>

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