[talk-au] Platform names

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Thu Mar 21 22:42:15 UTC 2019


On 21/03/19 22:30, Sebastian S. wrote:
> If you believe Wikipedia 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_railway_station%2C_Sydney
> The stations name is 'Central railway station' but it goes by many 
> colloquial names.
>
> I don't like the way the platforms are named currently. "Platform 8+9 
> (8;9)" is surely not the name on the signboards. 

Depends on what 'sign board' you look at as to the platform presentation.
The electronic sign boards at the station entry show a single platform 
number, along with when the train leaves and the stops.

The fixed platform entry signs show the pair of platforms that the entry 
accesses.

Some of the Australian platforms are split, some are paired. I prefer 
split myself. But I am not making it a task for myself.

> I am in favour of splitting the platforms to have each number just 
> called "Platform $". Maybe you can also indicated on which side 8 and 
> 9 is in relation to a path which you would walk into the platform.

If the platforms are split that should give the user the required 
indication.
>
> Maybe name:left=Platform 8 makes sense?

Left and right depend on what direction you approach the platforms, at 
Central you can approach lots of the platform pairs from ether direction.

> Another question I have is how would you route a blind person to and 
> onto the platform when there is no way?
> What about segment indicators. I have not been to central station but 
> I assume for long trains there are segment indicators along the 
> platform for passengers to find they carriages quicker. Are you 
> planning to mapping these?

I have no plans to map these. I don't know if there is a defined way to 
map them. Do you ? If so you might give a link for those interested.
> Have you looked at other train station in OSM?
> I suggest to have a look at
> Hamburg 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.552778&mlon=10.006389&zoom=15#map=18/53.55274/10.00677
> Or Cologne https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.94319/6.95853
> Or Paris Gare du Nord 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.88156/2.35623
> Or London Kings Cross 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.53194/-0.12326
> Regards Sebastian
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> On 21 March 2019 11:26:39 am AEDT, Thomas Manson 
> <thomas.manson at outlook.com> wrote:
>
>     Looking at Central Station, Sydney, the platform names are things
>     like 'Platform 4+5'. (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6015392)
>
>
>     From my reading of
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Apublic_transport%3Dplatform,
>     this should be
>     the name of the station , so in this case that would be either
>     Central or Central Station, with the platform numbers as the ref
>     tag (which is already populated).
>
>     1) First of all, is my understanding correct? It should be the
>     station name.
>     2) Secondly, should the name be Central or Central Station
>     (assuming 1 is correct)?
>
>     Regards,
>     Thomas
>
>
>
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