[talk-au] Platform names

Ewen Hill ewen.hill at gmail.com
Thu Mar 21 23:37:01 UTC 2019


Re vision impaired users. Is this where
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dplatform_edge could be
useful and whilst there is no route,  ot may assist... or hinder as it may
not be rendered.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 9:43 AM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21/03/19 22:30, Sebastian S. wrote:
>
> If you believe Wikipedia
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_railway_station%2C_Sydney
> The stations name is 'Central railway station' but it goes by many
> colloquial names.
>
> I don't like the way the platforms are named currently. "Platform 8+9
> (8;9)" is surely not the name on the signboards.
>
>
> Depends on what 'sign board' you look at as to the platform presentation.
> The electronic sign boards at the station entry show a single platform
> number, along with when the train leaves and the stops.
>
> The fixed platform entry signs show the pair of platforms that the entry
> accesses.
>
> Some of the Australian platforms are split, some are paired. I prefer
> split myself. But I am not making it a task for myself.
>
> I am in favour of splitting the platforms to have each number just called
> "Platform $". Maybe you can also indicated on which side 8 and 9 is in
> relation to a path which you would walk into the platform.
>
>
> If the platforms are split that should give the user the required
> indication.
>
>
> Maybe name:left=Platform 8 makes sense?
>
>
> Left and right depend on what direction you approach the platforms, at
> Central you can approach lots of the platform pairs from ether direction.
>
> Another question I have is how would you route a blind person to and onto
> the platform when there is no way?
> What about segment indicators. I have not been to central station but I
> assume for long trains there are segment indicators along the platform for
> passengers to find they carriages quicker. Are you planning to mapping
> these?
>
>
> I have no plans to map these. I don't know if there is a defined way to
> map them. Do you ? If so you might give a link for those interested.
>
> Have you looked at other train station in OSM?
> I suggest to have a look at
> Hamburg
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.552778&mlon=10.006389&zoom=15#map=18/53.55274/10.00677
> Or Cologne https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.94319/6.95853
> Or Paris Gare du Nord
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.88156/2.35623
> Or London Kings Cross
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.53194/-0.12326
> Regards Sebastian
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> On 21 March 2019 11:26:39 am AEDT, Thomas Manson
> <thomas.manson at outlook.com> <thomas.manson at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looking at Central Station, Sydney, the platform names are things like
>> 'Platform 4+5'. (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6015392)
>>
>>
>> From my reading of
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Apublic_transport%3Dplatform,
>> this should be
>> the name of the station , so in this case that would be either Central or
>> Central Station, with the platform numbers as the ref tag (which is already
>> populated).
>>
>> 1) First of all, is my understanding correct? It should be the station
>> name.
>> 2) Secondly, should the name be Central or Central Station (assuming 1 is
>> correct)?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Thomas
>>
>
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