[talk-au] local traffic only

Benjamin Ceravolo bjceravolo1 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 8 07:53:00 UTC 2019


I feel, as though discourage or discouraged is already an advisory term
(you can't advise a recommendation if advise is a synonym of recommend).

So I would think "motor_vehicle=discouraged" would be most appropriate.

Just my thoughts.

Ben

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 18:12, Luke Stewart <suburbansilvervlogs at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Perhaps "motor_vehicle=discouraged"?
>
> From the wiki:
> A legal right of way exists (see yes
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Dyes>) but usage is
> officially discouraged (e.g., HGVs on narrow but passable lanes). Only if
> marked by a traffic sign (subjective otherwise).
>
> Although that may be getting too far away from the meaning of the sign,
> but the original intention is to discourage through and non-local traffic
>
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 15:31, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I guess https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access does say "Access
>> values describe legal permissions/restrictions. What happens on the ground
>> may be different: for instance, many footpaths are used as de facto bike
>> paths, without a legal right to do so. (Various 'greyzone' tags have been
>> proposed to deal with such situations, but this is controversial and is not
>> described here.)"
>>
>> Similar to existing "maxspeed:advisory"
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:advisory perhaps if
>> these aren't legal restrictions but still signposted on the ground we could
>> use "motor_vehicle:advisory=destination". Does that work better?
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 13:04, Luke Stewart <suburbansilvervlogs at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As far as I have read, these signs are not enforceable by councils, nor
>>> do they appear in the NSW (or Australian) Road Rules. So unless the road
>>> itself is on private property and this sign is present, the access would
>>> still be public and it has the same meaning as discouraging the use of the
>>> street in favour of main roads.
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