[talk-au] local traffic only

Michael James michael at techdrive.com.au
Sun Nov 10 23:20:18 UTC 2019


They existed prior to 1997 and were removed when the national rules were introduced that year.

It’s likely that local councils are unaware that they no longer have any legal purpose.

From: Sebastian S. <mapping at consebt.de>
Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2019 9:50 PM
To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org; Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>; Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
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Subject: Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

So the sign is put up by the council. Is it not an official sign?

Could someone elaborate on the legal side mentioned here. E.g. is there catalogue of street signs in the road rules and this one is not among them?

Are people confusing lax enforcement of the sign with it having no legal meaning?
On 9 November 2019 11:37:49 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com<mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 02:24, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com<mailto:matkoniecz at tutanota.com>> wrote:
Why it would be irrelevant?

access tag family is for legal access (with some space for officially discouraged access),
access=destination is for "transit is illegal", not "local residents dislike transit traffic".

OSM is not a place to add a nonexisting ban on transit traffic

Yeah realised this later, see my other post in this thread at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-November/013188.html, which I suggested motor_vehicle:advisory=destination to tag a suggested or advised but maybe not legally enforceable destination only restriction.

On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 01:55, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com<mailto:matkoniecz at tutanota.com>> wrote:
Is it "local traffic only" as in "resident only" or "no transit"?

Is permission required to enter this area?

AFAIK there is no tagging scheme for distinguishing "only with permission of
homeowner" and "available to all residents of closed community".

It just means this road is indented to be used if you're traveling to somewhere along this road, but not if you're just driving through as a shortcut.

It's still public land, not private property.
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