[talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

[Warin]

On 12/09/19 21:06, Sebastian S. wrote:
> Good discussion,
> I also think the track should be mapped.
> Aside from access no I think it might be worthwhile adding 
> decommissioned or rehabilitation tags to tracks that should not be 
> used to indicate their intended end.
>
> Other thoughts are:
> - why show access=no tracks on the map? Admittedly this comes down to 
> the data consumers and their rendering.

Same reason why private roads get shown - they can be use 
navigationally, for example, I am half way along the road because I have 
just passed that track that has no access.
> - would tagging the whole area with access=conditional add any value?
No. Not unless that area does truly have that. And then renders will 
have to recognise any thing inside it as having that access tag too.
> - how will this discussion that will end in some form of agreed 
> practice be documented on the map, aside from revised tracks that is?
> - have they also threatened other mapping companies with legal 
> actions? ianal but my response would be highlighting the various 
> mismatches as already pointed out in the thread.
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> On 12 September 2019 6:27:23 pm AEST, Ewen Hill <ewen.hill at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>         Frederick,
>
>        If I use the term bush walking colloquially, then it means to
>     use a track that already exists., either single track or 4wd track
>     (fire trail) predominantly
>

Some call that 'track walking'.

>     however there might be times where you cross a grass land where
>     there is no well defined track.
>

And some would see that as true 'bushwalking'.

>
>     If you are talking about walking through a forest not on a track
>     or the track is hideously overgrown than I would call that "bush
>     bashing".
>

The term 'scruby' is used by some for areas where vegetation causes 
scratched skin, ripped clothing.
Most tend to avoid these areas when ever possible after a few 
encounters, even if the distance is more than doubled.

>     The term hiking has connotations mainly of trails with the odd bit
>     of bush bashing included.
>
>     Large wombats and kangaroos who can create tracks in sparse
>     undergrowth that is hard to tell from a man-made walking trail on
>     the ground. Another issue is old bulldozer tracks or firefighter
>     tracks that were used to stop wild fires (sometimes called mineral
>     earth breaks). Normally these are removed post the wildfire but
>     sometimes only at the start of the new track.
>
>     In the brochure, that sounds like I should stay on the trails.if
>     walking
>
>     Ewen
>

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