[talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

[Daniel Pocock]

On 21/04/2020 23:57, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> 
> 
> On 21/04/2020 13:50, Warin wrote:
>> On 21/4/20 7:57 pm, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> On 21/04/2020 09:53, Greg Lauer wrote:
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> As both a (very amateur) military historian who has visited many of
>>>> battlefields/CWG's through the Asia Pacific, Africa and Europe, as well
>>>> as an Open Data proponent, I really like what you are trying to do. But...
>>>>
>>>> The terms and conditions of OSM in relation to data imports is fairly
>>>> clear - unless the data is already licensed under an Open Data Commons
>>>> Open Database License (ODbL) then you will need (preferably written)
>>>> permission from the copyright holder. 
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_3_-_License_approval  
>>>>
>>>> A cursory glance at each of the providers websites does not indicate
>>>> that they have licensed under ODbL. Yes, this is pain, but it is the
>>>> only way OSM can ensure that the data can be legally used. Feel free to
>>>> send them an email asking if they will give permission to make there
>>>> data available in OSM. I can send you a template letter that
>>>> explains the licensing conditions to the copyright holder. The CWGC data
>>>> set would be great as a global dataset!
>>> I've sent the emails but even if they don't respond before the weekend,
>>> I still feel that people can do useful activities with the data, even if
>>> it is not an import to OSM just yet
>>
>>
>> I think all that can be done now is to look at the data, check if it is missing from OSM.
>>
>> If missing .. go there and map it, or use what imagery OSM has available and map what you can from that. 
>>
>> You cannot copy data from the Anzacathon pages nor any linked pages, 
>> at least not any that are not compatible with OSM requirements. 
>>
> 
> 
> I fully agree
> 
> As stated previously, I personally volunteer to go and do exactly what
> you propose: visiting Anzac sites.  I'm in the alps every weekend, if
> you look closely you will find one of my vehicles in the video.
> 
> Moreover, it may be midnight here but just for fun I'm going to stay up
> and write a PostgreSQL stored procedure to calculate geodesics from any
> point in any of the data sets.
> 
> That is helpful, but it is not the complete solution.  I registered
> anzacathon.com but I don't claim to own it.  I'll do what I can, like
> publishing my PostgreSQL code, but I put this out as a non-profit,
> collaborative project.
> 


Actually, it looks like we have a friend in PostGIS
https://postgis.net/

>From my existing PostgreSQL work:
https://gitlab.com/anzacathon/postgresql

anybody with PostGIS can find local Anzac sites.

Regards,

Daniel