[talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

Daniel Pocock daniel at pocock.pro
Sun Apr 26 13:28:47 UTC 2020



On 21/04/2020 13:50, Warin wrote:
> On 21/4/20 7:57 pm, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> On 21/04/2020 09:53, Greg Lauer wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> As both a (very amateur) military historian who has visited many of
>>> battlefields/CWG's through the Asia Pacific, Africa and Europe, as well
>>> as an Open Data proponent, I really like what you are trying to do. But...
>>>
>>> The terms and conditions of OSM in relation to data imports is fairly
>>> clear - unless the data is already licensed under an Open Data Commons
>>> Open Database License (ODbL) then you will need (preferably written)
>>> permission from the copyright holder. 
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_3_-_License_approval  
>>>
>>> A cursory glance at each of the providers websites does not indicate
>>> that they have licensed under ODbL. Yes, this is pain, but it is the
>>> only way OSM can ensure that the data can be legally used. Feel free to
>>> send them an email asking if they will give permission to make there
>>> data available in OSM. I can send you a template letter that
>>> explains the licensing conditions to the copyright holder. The CWGC data
>>> set would be great as a global dataset!
>> I've sent the emails but even if they don't respond before the weekend,
>> I still feel that people can do useful activities with the data, even if
>> it is not an import to OSM just yet
> 
> 
> I think all that can be done now is to look at the data, check if it is missing from OSM.
> 
> If missing .. go there and map it, or use what imagery OSM has available and map what you can from that. 
> 
> You cannot copy data from the Anzacathon pages nor any linked pages, 
> at least not any that are not compatible with OSM requirements. 
> 


I asked on the talk-gb list and this was discussed before, they did get
a response from CWGC in 2010:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-April/024456.html

contains this link:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2010-August/010110.html



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