[talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Sat Jan 18 10:58:56 UTC 2020


On 18/1/20 7:15 pm, Sebastian S. wrote:
> I think the discussion regarding damaged is good, however I feel that 
> this is a too fine grained quality for mapping from satellite images.
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> I would use ruined. Ruined can be fully destroyed or partially.


Ruined to me would be beyond economic recovery.

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> If damaged my next question would be how much? A little? Very 
> subjective to quantify.


Damaged would be cheaper to repair rather than rebuild.


And yes there will be some that are hard to judge.

But a large number can easily be place into one category or the other.

Where it is hard to judge I'd be conservative and go for ruined.


Already have hard to determine ruined or destroyed, so I think damaged 
is far easier to determine.


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> On 18 January 2020 9:34:58 am AEDT, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
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>     On 17/1/20 10:08 pm, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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>>     17 Jan 2020, 11:42 by andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com:
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>>         I'm all for using the lifecycle prefix,
>>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix. I
>>         agreed that if there's still remains there use ruined or
>>         destroyed, not sure what the difference is though.
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>>     ruined implies that ruins still remain, destroyed may mean that
>>     or that there is no trace at all
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>>     in practice difference is minor if any
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>     Most of these will still have foundations in place, they may not
>     be fit for reuse but they are there. Some fire places and chimneys
>     too remain.
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>     I'll use ruined. Unless there are other ideas?
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If there is no trace at all then 'razed' could be a better word. Of 
course there will be those that say OSM should not have that, but it 
does avoid some one adding it from old imagery.

>>         Once it's been cleared you could use demolished, removed or
>>         raised
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>>     Probably razed, not raised. I see not real difference.
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>>         , again not sure what the difference is. While damaged is not
>>         documented it seems the perfect fit since there is no other
>>         suitable tag for this on the wiki.
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>>     damaged seems to me a poor fit as prefix, damaged building is
>>     still a building,
>>     and I would expect building=something tag to be used.
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>     By damaged I mean part of the building is intact but another part
>     has been damaged .. e.g. a truck has run part way through the
>     building.
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