[talk-au] Fire Station Operators

Graeme Fitzpatrick graemefitz1 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 26 01:29:29 UTC 2020


& done! (apart from ~17 that are too hard, mainly because I can't see if
there actually is a Station in that spot / area)

However, there were "only" 718 listed. Earlier, Warin mentioned 944
stations in the database, & I've spotted 3 that I know of that weren't
listed (or previously mapped).

How do we find the extra 220 odd?

Thanks

Graeme


On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 11:10, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed as to non fire stations - control center is one, the other
> headquarters.
>
> Headquarters would be an 'office' type function.
>
> Control center looks, from imagery, to not only control but supply?
>
> There is a fire & rescue station in 'town' that is mapped into OSM.
>
> There are a number of rural fire stations around Narrabri .. some of them
> unmapped.
> These show up very well on the LPI Base Map even when zoomed out a fair
> way.
>
>
>
> On 9/1/20 8:12 am, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 22:40, Sebastian Spiess <mapping at consebt.de> wrote:
>
>> I've done a few. Two raised questions.
>>
>> Narrabri - There are two fire ' services'  according to LPI map. How to
>> tag them?
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336523
>
>
> Looks like there is a Fire Control Center there, I'd just tag that
> building as office=government + operator + name, since they have more of an
> office function.
>
>
>>
>>
>> and RAYMOND TERRACE Fire Station - This seems to be and old fire station
>> as according to https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/news.php?news=608
>> a new one was built. I can't tell if the old one was closed down.
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336870
>
>
> If you're not sure and street level imagery doesn't help, just mark it as
> too hard and skip it. You can create a note so that someone with local
> knowledge can help.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 2020-01-08 21:24, schrieb Andrew Harvey:
>> > If someone has carefully surveyed the name as signposted I leave that
>> > intact. branch is not mandatory but helpful since consumers can choose
>> > how they want to format the such as "Narooma", "Narooma RFS", "Narooma
>> > Rural Fire Brigade", etc. especially when combined with operator. The
>> > whole point was to be neutral on the exact name format and not engage
>> > in a mass edit to reformat them to be the same, but instead respect
>> > names will look different based on signage.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have used the LPI Base Map for both name and operator, see
>> >>
>> >> Way: Narooma Fire Station (761122699) [operator fire & rescue]
>> >>
>> >> and
>> >>
>> >> Way: Narooma Rural Fire Service (761122698)
>> >>
>> >> I do not bother with the 'branch' as that is usually the leading
>> >> value in the name and probably the same as the areas administration
>> >> name too.
>> >>
>> >> The LPI Base Map also gives the area so it can be mapped as a way.
>> >>
>> >> On 08/01/20 16:13, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No, just confirming details was all I was thinking about!
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Graeme
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Andrew Harvey
>> >> <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's normally considered okay to check a business website as a
>> >> reference and picking up their contact details, but to err on the
>> >> side of caution taking a whole database from fire.nsw.gov.au [1] and
>> >> mass importing is not advised.
>> >>
>> >> So I'd suggest not just copying everything from that website. For
>> >> the RFS operated fire stations normally the name will indicate this,
>> >> or a quick look at google search results may also indicate,
>> >> sometimes it's visible on Mapillary based on the signage.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 15:39, Graeme Fitzpatrick
>> >> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just a thought?
>> >>
>> >> Are we allowed to use  https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=467
>> >> or not?
>> >>
>> >> I've thinking we would still need permission & waiver?
>> >>
>> >> Big question, I guess, is - are we commercial or not?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Graeme
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Links:
>> > ------
>> > [1] http://fire.nsw.gov.au
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