[talk-au] PSMA Boundaries

Andrew Harvey andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 1 23:49:18 UTC 2020

I didn't read the whole issue at
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/103 but it looks

"Since both PR #2816
<https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2816> (render
labels on settlement place nodes and areas) and PR #2939
<https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2939> (only
render settlement place nodes on areas if there is no node with the same
tags inside) were rejected, I'm closing this issue." so basically the style
maintainers don't render place labels when mapped as an area. You can add a
node inside the area with the same place tag and then make sure to add that
node as a member of the relation with role label (so data consumers can
avoid duplicates and know it's the label for the area).

For example see how the relation for
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3044806 also has a label member
which is the node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/117202372. I think
this is the best solution as data consumers who want to place a label can
get better hints on where the label should be, but you still have the area
which is a better representation for suburbs.

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 09:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>

> Thanks again, both Andrews!
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:06, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I guess now is a good time to point out the post import items at
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/PSMA_Admin_Boundaries#Post_Import,
>> for areas where you have the local knowledge you can consider if a place
>> tag should be added to any of the new relations (eg. place=suburb) and then
>> adding any existing place=suburb node as the label member of the relation
>> (important so data consumers can avoid duplicates)
> Spotted one problem with this & need some help solving it thanks.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-27.9629/153.4106 is centred on
> Southport on the GC. You can see the surrounding suburb names but it
> doesn't show?
> When you go in & look at the suburb boundaries it is shown as eg Main
> Beach one side, Southport the other
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-27.97596/153.42274 & they both
> appear to have the same info listed?
> Southport: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11675456
> Main Beach: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11675454
> I tried adding place=suburb to Southport but didn't change things.
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks
> Graeme
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