[talk-au] Sufficient permission?

forster at ozonline.com.au forster at ozonline.com.au
Tue Oct 6 22:25:08 UTC 2020


My guess is that it is not sufficient permission. But I have an  
additional question and a possible solution for you.

If a large group of people who were familiar with an area could  
confidently name a feature without referring to a map, for example the  
members of a bushwalking club, then my understanding of OSM rules is  
that you can use that name.

My question to the community: if I ask one person, who is not  
connected with a mapping business and has detailed knowledge of an  
area and they can confidently name a feature without referring to a  
map, is that sufficient?


> Hi all,
> I like to walk tracks with my GPS running, and trace them into OSM
> afterwards.
> A long time ago, I sent an email to Robert Sloss, who makes lots of
> bushwalking guides in my region. I asked if it was OK for me to use the
> track names from his books to name the tracks in OSM. (Many of the
> tracks are not signposted, so you can't find out the name on the ground.)
> His reply was
> "You may use any names I have applied to tracks as my main intention is
> to get people walking."
> Does this sound like sufficient permission for OSM?
> The full email chain is pasted below:
> From: "Robert Sloss" <robert at robertsloss.com.au>
> To: "'David Wales'" <daviewales at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: OpenStreetMap Bushwalking tracks
> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:43:06 +1000
> Hi David
> I have no objection to using the name Cadastral; I used this name as there
> is no street nae for the right of way between the two properties.
> You will find names in the guide that are not accepted geographical names,
> but by becoming common usage names they will eventually be adopted. I am
> fitting (nailing) laminated signs with map to trees. \
> You may use any names I have applied to tracks as my main intention is to
> get people walking.
> Regards
> Robert Sloss
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wales [mailto:daviewales at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 September 2014 6:16 PM
> To: robert at robertsloss.com.au
> Subject: OpenStreetMap Bushwalking tracks
> Hi Robert,
> I have recently gone on a bushwalk in the Buxton area, using your book
> Bushwalking - Cycling : Wollondilly & Macarthur.
> I logged the route using a GPS, and have traced the track onto
> OpenStreetMaps.
> (See this link:	http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-34.24863/150.51763 )
> However, I have not added the name of the track, because it was not
> signposted.
> According to your book, the track name is Cadestral Track, but I thought I
> should ask your permission before copying that name.
> For future reference, do you mind if I use the names from your book to name
> trails I trace on OpenStreetMap from GPS tracks?
> Regards,
> David Wales.

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