[talk-au] vine row tagging

Brendan Barnes brenbarnes at gmail.com
Thu Oct 15 06:49:17 UTC 2020


Depends of level of detail sought, but each grapevine could be marked as
natural=shrub <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dshrub>.

My first thought was to use barrier=fence
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dfence>, but the wiki
defines it as a "freestanding structure designed to *restrict or prevent
movement across a boundary*".

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:46, Adam Steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey John
>
> What are the owners of the properties containing vines saying? Are they
> fully aware that their farm data will be open for everyone to see?
>
> ...and what data/tagging useful to them?
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 08:40, John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So, map the strainer posts on the ends of the rows, rather than the rows
>> themselves, and then the end user could use them to interpolate the row?
>> That's an interesting idea.
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 14:33, nwastra <nwastra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Many vineyards have numbered rows with a tag on the end strainer posts
>>> to assist direction of workers, etc.
>>> These could be numbered using the addr interpolation scheme and then
>>> individual rows would not need to be mapped but does need a close survey.
>>>
>>> On 15 Oct 2020, at 3:32 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 14:13, John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking more broadly, it looks like vine rows haven't been widely
>>>> mapped before.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you need to?
>>>
>>> I think it could be automatically assumed that all vineyards have their
>>> vines in rows, approx the same distance apart?
>>>
>>> I noticed vine_row_orientation
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:vine_row_orientation>=* : vine
>>> row orientation (in degrees)on the wiki page - wouldn't that be sufficient?
>>>
>>> For vine *rows* (ie. the linear features within the vineyard), we've had
>>>> suggestions of natural=tree_row,
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you were going to put a tree_row on every row of vines, you'd have
>>> nothing but a solid mass of them!
>>>
>>> denotation=agricultural,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, not sure what you mean with this?
>>>
>>> and crop=grape,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Marked as being redundant as all vineyards grow grapes! :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>>
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