[talk-au] vine row tagging

Phil Wyatt phil at wyatt-family.com
Thu Oct 15 09:11:01 UTC 2020


Hi Folks,

 

Where does the denotation=agricultural come from as it doesn’t appear to be a regular combination with crop=grape ??

 

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/crop=grape#combinations

 

Cheers Phil

 

 

From: Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2020 7:52 PM
To: John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com>
Cc: talk-au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] vine row tagging

 

I think it's fine to map these in OSM, like all other things in private property it does make it harder to validate and determining the exact crop from imagery might be a stretch, but I don't think this is enough of a reason to not map.

 

I agree with the suggestion of natural=tree_row + denotation=agricultural + crop=grape is best. These are all well documented and in-use tags and this use matches the description of what they are for.

 

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 15:13, John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com <mailto:johnwbryant at gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all, I'm doing some work with a community agriculture group looking at adding vineyard-related features to OSM, at this point starting with just vine rows. 

Vineyards themselves (ie. the polygons that contain the rows) are often tagged with landuse=vineyard and crop=grape [1][2].

I can't see anything relevant to this in the Australian tagging guidelines. Looking more broadly, it looks like vine rows haven't been widely mapped before.

For vine *rows* (ie. the linear features within the vineyard), we've had suggestions of natural=tree_row, denotation=agricultural, and crop=grape, but not totally confident about this.

Does anyone here have any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks
John

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dvineyard
[2] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=vineyard#combinations

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