[talk-au] vine row tagging

John Bryant johnwbryant at gmail.com
Fri Oct 16 02:56:20 UTC 2020


Thanks Phil, there's a brief note about denotation=* in combination with
natural=tree (and by extension, natural=tree_row?) on the wiki [1].
Combining with crop=grape seems to be a new approach...

[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree#Subtag_denotation_to_indicate_the_significance

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:11, Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
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> Where does the denotation=agricultural come from as it doesn’t appear to
> be a regular combination with crop=grape ??
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> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/crop=grape#combinations
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> Cheers Phil
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> *From:* Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 October 2020 7:52 PM
> *To:* John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* talk-au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] vine row tagging
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> I think it's fine to map these in OSM, like all other things in private
> property it does make it harder to validate and determining the exact crop
> from imagery might be a stretch, but I don't think this is enough of a
> reason to not map.
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> I agree with the suggestion of natural=tree_row +
> denotation=agricultural + crop=grape is best. These are all well documented
> and in-use tags and this use matches the description of what they are for.
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> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 15:13, John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all, I'm doing some work with a community agriculture group looking at
> adding vineyard-related features to OSM, at this point starting with just
> vine rows.
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> Vineyards themselves (ie. the polygons that contain the rows) are often
> tagged with landuse=vineyard and crop=grape [1][2].
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> I can't see anything relevant to this in the Australian tagging
> guidelines. Looking more broadly, it looks like vine rows haven't been
> widely mapped before.
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> For vine *rows* (ie. the linear features within the vineyard), we've had
> suggestions of natural=tree_row, denotation=agricultural, and crop=grape,
> but not totally confident about this.
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> Does anyone here have any thoughts or suggestions?
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> Thanks
> John
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> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dvineyard
> [2] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=vineyard#combinations
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